DEXTER SEASON 2 Episode 9, 10, 11, & 12 REACTION! Michael C. Hall | Doakes | Dexter Resurrection

DEXTER SEASON 2 Episode 9, 10, 11, & 12 REACTION! Michael C. Hall | Doakes | Dexter Resurrection

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We are back. We got another four episodes to do here for the finale here of season two of 
Dexter. The show that we are enjoying so much. Enjoying so much that I can’t pronounce anything 
correctly. Oh no. And that’s what I do here,   right, John? Ice cream truck. blood splatter and 
stuff like that. Yeah. Anyways, I am with the true serial killer on this show, I guess. So, I am with 
my host John Bang Humphrey and I am Andrew Flag Gordon. Yeah. And like I said, we got episodes 9, 
10, 11, and 12 to do here of season 2. We’re going to finish it off with a bang and a flash. Hey, 
let’s go. Anyways, Donald, how are you doing, my friend? Doing well. I’m doing well. That was 
my subtle tribute to Horatio Kaine as portrayed by David Caruso on CSI Miami. It’s I’m secretly 
hoping for a crossover, too. Uh this it’s been a good day so far. We watched a fun movie earlier. 
I’m excited. This is one of my favorite things   of the current moment. I’ve been loving Dexter. 
I’ve been loving sharing it with you guys. I’ve been loving sharing it with you, Andrew. Uh this 
is always a highlight of my week and uh I can’t   wait to dive into the yet another, you know, end 
cluster of a season. How are you, sir? I am good. Yeah, you’re right. We did react to something 
really fun earlier. It’s been a long day, but   I love doing this show as well. It’s a lot of fun 
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We will shout you out individually, personally, and then we will answer the question as best 
we can. Yeah. So, I think I have spoken long enough. I think we should get right into the 
episode. So, we’re going to get right into this,   Jonald. Let’s do this thing. Let’s go. Season 2, 
episode 9, commencing in a three, two, and a one. Ding. Resistance is futile. That’s what I said. 
that I’m always that you were Is that a back issue? Was bad for me. Uhoh. Read the up. I didn’t 
realize how bad till last night. Hey, how’s it going? She had me fighting with myself the whole 
time. All that self-reflection is unhealthy. Uh, sorry. What is The fact is I already know 
who I am and I’m done fighting it. So, the battle’s over. Yla’s over. Morgan, clean 
this mess like a dream. God damn safety hazard. Oh. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh, and the missing. 
He didn’t have time to clean it up, too, I think. Right. Yeah. Can’t leave the shine around, bro. 
Oh, good transition. My subconscious isn’t even bothering with symbolism. That’s what I get for 
leaving the remains of Himenez up in that cabin.   Bad time to get sloppy with special agent Lundy 
putting everyone in law enforcement under a microscope. Uhoh. Dexter, what are you doing 
here? Uh oh. Oh no. I was in a fugue state. I walked here. Let me give you that. In the same 
closes last night, slept here. Wanted to make sure whoever broke in stayed away. Guess I kind 
of fell asleep on the job. No. Dexter. Dexter’s here. Oh. Hey guys. Dexter, I made a kill robot 
that eats airplanes. Want to see? Mine’s making pancakes. You want bananas in yours? Oh, snap. 
Oh, buddy. Oh, no. Oh, she gave him the No, you guys are something I got to go deal with. 
So, then why’d you come? A needed one of these. Putty. You guys are keeping him 
human. This show has so much   heart. Dexter’s got work to do. to go eat 
your pancakes. Add extra bananas for me. Oh boy. I didn’t mean for them to find me 
here. It’s okay. I think they needed a hug,   too. Oh, you too. I’m sorry. All right. 
I feel Oh, what do you feel? Such regret, which is rare for me. I mean, now that I don’t 
mess up, I do. Just never so stupendously. I had you and them. I had us. There’s so much to 
have. Oh god. Just demolish it. I honestly thought I was smarter than that. Whoa. Rude awakening. 
Like that. He’s having at least accountability. Laya is one of the biggest mistakes of my life. 
Means a lot to me. Dexter. Doesn’t change the fact you slept with another woman. Yeah. You too. 
I just wanted to say it. No, you’re learning from the steps. All I can do now is pick up the pieces 
of your Menz. He’s one big pile of evidence. Not that anyone will easily break into that cabin. 
Uh Laya still, I can’t leave a kill lying   around. I’ll have to call in sick at work. Oh. 
Ah crap. Oh. Or that What are you up to? Do No, I’m assuming that’s Lundy sent them, right? Or 
Lundy. Yeah, because Lundy like suspected like, “Dude, how did you mess up this up so badly? 
You’re not like you’re too good to mess this   up so badly.” Oh, is that’s not Yeah, that’s 
not dope. I’m not saying it is do FBI. Yeah, my feeble interview with Lundy might have 
put me on his short list of suspects. Well,   there you go. Peace with Harry’s code again. Makes 
decisions easier. First, human later. Hopefully, Llaya or Dos don’t go to that cabin. See, 
I thought Do had hired some of his like   ex ranger buds or something, but that would 
that would make sense. I could see that. No, you’re a better viewer than me. You’re a 
bigger fan. I understand. Surprise. Oh, no. To page this person, press now. Page him. 
He’s got a beeper. You know what? You James, you disappearing. You know, you didn’t just 
stand me up last night. You screwed yourself   out of a six figure security job. Damn. 
Which means that being a cop is one of the few options you have left. So stop pissing 
off the people that can help you. Jesus. Lundy’s people been trying to reach you. They just 
want a hand with the Bay Harbor. What’s your case, James? Give it to them. Show Lundy that 
you are a team player. I don’t I don’t   like this. Where is he going? Pick up when 
I call again. I’m going to keep calling. Oh. Oh my goodness. Your right eye is a 
little darker than your left eye. And you weigh about 50 lbs. I’m going to have to fatten 
you up. Even bother you last night. Oh my. Tell people at work. I’m an above board kind of 
guy. And in my history of office romances,   sneaking around has never worked. I don’t know. 
Yeah, cuz now she’s worried about perception. I just think the timing is bad. Maybe we should 
wait until we can control the narrative. Put out a press release. When? What? Something break on 
the butcher? I got to go. There’s kiche. Eat it. Lundy’s bees are buzzing. Something’s agitated 
the hive. Every look is so meticulous. Like you’re wondering what’s going on. Lundy’s got 
a suspect for the Bay Harbor Butcher. And bro,   it’s one of us here. Whoa, dude. That’s 
disturbing. Oh, this is tense. We’re not sure that Monty’s pegged someone, but if he has, 
it sure as hell isn’t one of my people. Sorry,   Lieutenant, but I confirmed it myself last night. 
Everything points to someone in this house. Oh, boy. I thought Did they not say they wanted to 
keep it between them this morning? Cuz Lundy   shut this PD out of the task force. Board more 
feds in. So, he definitely has someone in his crosshairs. Oh [ __ ] What about Stanbar impound? 
Dude’s a freak. I bet it’s W from Records. Chico, please. What about Lauren Narcotics? Or it could 
be that murderous Morgan in Blood Spatter. Oh god, we’ve got company. I noticed there and there. 
Oh no. Waiting for you. Lundy brought in his own forensic texts. Uggh. What are they looking 
for? Think they’d tell me? I’m just the LFI. Lead forensics investigator. Yeah, of course. I’d 
like you to walk me through your filing system. I’ll need a breakdown of evidentiary procedure and 
protocol. Is there something particular I can help   you with? We just need your help navigating 
the lamp. If they’re looking for proof, they won’t find it. Not here, at least. I may have 
briefly rebelled against Harry, but I learned my   lessons. Well, come on, Dex. Tell me. Oh. Um, make 
sure they deserve it. This is life or death stuff. It’s that important. Why do you think I pulled 
all those strings to arrange this? Oh, boy. Oh,   boy. Don’t get caught. And what are all the other 
rules for? So, I don’t get caught. That’s right. Abide by the code of Harry. Why are they looking 
at us like that? They don’t know why you’re here, why you need to see this. But I want this seared 
into your mind, son. Oh, you know what they say,   John. Resistance is futile. Oh my 
goodness. Oh my god. Wow. Jesus. Jeez. Grim. The chair. The chair. That was a nice 
inner cut from watching someone in the chair just saying I need to be in the chair. Yeah, 
something’s up with Jack. Something I can’t   tell you. Why not? Honestly, you don’t want to 
know. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. Poor Prince. Oh, what are you doing, man? He’s a ghost from 
my past. I wasn’t sure I’d be able to find   you. I’m in the phone book now. It’s good to 
see you, Leon. My father-in-law will be happy. We have a customer with American Doroth. I 
need a a discrete lab. A relaxing cruise is better. I’ve got a blood sample. I am not a fixer 
anymore. And you are not in black operations. I’m a travel agent and I like it. Yeah. The owners, 
I need your help. Oh my god. The slides analyzed and your most expensive tour package of 
the islands. Give me the slides. We both get something we want. Are you in trouble? No. 
No. But someone else is going to be. Yeah. Damn. Look who’s come out of this cave. Milo, what 
are you doing here? Angel mentioned that he needed a decorator and well, that’s what 
just came up. So, I gave him a call. Oh, I hate it. She’s not really a decorator. Not 
really my apartment that I want decorating.   Oh. Oh my god. So, hey, the boys here 
have persuaded me to go for a drink. Oh, God. Should I be worried? Maybe you should come 
with us because who knows what secrets will come pouring out of me once the drinks start blowing. 
I have to get to Menace, but a dead man tells no tales of a woman. They should make a Pirates of 
the Caribbean movie with that title. You came to   Dexter’s rescue at the bowling alley. You just ran 
right towards that mugger. I thought for your own personal safety. That’s my job. Mine too. It is 
not. Don’t do it. Is baiting him. That guy. No. I can still look into it. Is long gone by now. 
I hate it. What the hell do you want? It’s like a Scooby-Doo colored bathroom. Those friends of 
yours out there, they don’t even know you. They   just see the mask. But I see it all. I can see how 
upset you are. Oh, really? It’s more than just me that’s eating at you. There’s something else. You 
don’t have to handle it alone. Oh, I can help. No, I know how heavy that mask is. How tiring. 
I’m the only one who can see behind it. And it doesn’t scare me. Can’t live with her. Can’t 
kill her. She’s not going away. Good luck, Angel. Oh, he’s about to go ape. Found my slides. Oh 
no. Oh no. It’s over. Oh, the dolly room. And the walls are closing in. Yeah. Oh god. Morgan. Oh, 
Special Agent Lundy wants to see you. Please come with us. Wait, Lundy didn’t say anything about 
this to me. That locked off shot on him. I’m on the [ __ ] task force. I demand to know what Oh 
my. Right behind you. They’re calling us in. I’m right behind you guys. Oh golly. Oh, there’s more 
of them. Got him. Whoa. Oh my god. I should be panicked, terrified. But Yla was right. The mask 
has been heavy. I won’t need it and surrender. I can let it go. Oh my god. The pain will come 
when Deb finally understands who her brother really is. Oh no. Wow. What a reflected shot. Oh, 
hate it. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it. I hate it. What? Holy holy [ __ ] Oh my god. My old friends 
here to betray me. Please sit down. Wow. I’m sure that you heard we have a suspect in the Bay Harbor 
Butcher case. Put him on. Oh, are they going to make him investigate this? Yeah, I think so. We 
need answers now. Open it. Maybe they don’t know whose it is. Explain it to us. Trophies. That’s 
what I thought. What happens now? I know this will come as a shock to you, Morgan, but this is a good 
fake out. Our primary suspect is someone you know well. Oh [ __ ] What? Sergeant James Dos. What? 
What? Do No way. He was the lead case investigator on four of the butcher victims, which put him 
on my radar. We look surprised. Turns out his father was a butcher and abusive. Oh, Bay Harbor 
Butcher. He’s also a trained assassin in special forces. That along with his on the job shootings 
and Oh, that makes sense to think of a excessive force citations. He fits the profile. Yes, he has 
a need to dole out personal justice. Yesterday, Dos walked out of an interview and disappeared. 
Yeah, that’s right. How he did that? That makes   sense. A plane out of the country. Oh my god. 
No. His apartment. Oh no. Do no. Oh god. Oh my god. carefully hidden in the trunk of his car 
at the airport. It don’t make so much sense. Wow. Everyone else in the precinct was beyond 
shocked when I told them. Ooh. What exactly is Sergeant Dos’s problem with you, Morgan? I kill 
people for one, but what was it Sergeant Do said   about me? Oh, I always sense there was something 
off about him. We need you to analyze and match these slides immediately. Me? I’m keeping the 
forensics in house. The public needs to see   our strengths now. Their trust in us is about 
to take a major ass [ __ ] Now I’m making you first forensic tech in the chain of custody with 
these slides on his own murders. That’s why Oh my god. This is wild writing. I love it. Yeah, we’ll 
get him, Dex. And when you do, my story has to be stronger than his. Don’t worry. I’m going to be 
with you every step of the way. Me and this. O, I have an even bigger favor. Name it. Move into 
that new apartment of yours. Deb, if you got in   the middle of this and you got hurt. Oh, my sister 
first and I’m going to worry like a brother, not a coworker. Well, don’t. God damn it. You 
don’t have to worry about I can’t help it,   my man. Deb, the best thing you can do for 
me is to give me and my protective detail a wide birth. A I love the way she kisses. I 
hate it. A hugger back. Hug her back, man. One less pair of eyes to worry about. Yeah, 
exactly. You know I didn’t do this. You know me, Maria. That’s not me. Yeah, but they don’t. What 
do they have on me? They found something in your   car. Oh [ __ ] Look, the next time you see me, 
there’ll be no doubt. Until then, you won’t be able to contact me. Don’t you disappear on me, 
James. Maria, I have to do this. God damn it. I just want you to know that you you meant 
a lot to me. more than you know. And Oh,   buddy. I just want to thank you for that. Oh, 
buddy. Looks like I won’t find any prints or DNA on this box. I can chalk it up to how careful Do 
is. Harry had strict rules about not hurting the innocent. And for all his fury, Dos is innocent. 
Oh, that delivery. But there’s also the number one rule. Don’t get caught. Can’t compromise that. 
Got to stick to the code of Harry. Mr. Morgan, special agent. We thought you might 
need our help. Please come in. Oh,   Christ. Don’t let anyone in or out of the lab. 
And don’t let the incubator dip below 37 C. And please don’t touch anything. You understand? Jeez. 
Are you pissed at something about Laya and me? Oh, I don’t want to get in between us. If you 
still want her. God, no. Yla’s insane. She’s   destructive. A naturally occurring disaster. So, 
you don’t mind if I go for it? No. Have at it, bro. Ly is just using you to get at me. And so 
what? First it was a divorce. Then getting stabbed was no picnic. Now this thing with doses. Dark 
days, my friend. Too dark. Dark days. Got to stay positive here. Angel just doesn’t get it. There’s 
no solution. She’s a problem. A problem. You giving Do the press? Do is wanted for questioning 
and that’s what my press release says. It’ll still   destroy him. He’s doing a fine job of destroying 
himself without my help. He is not your man. He is however my prime suspect. He may be your exartner. 
He may be your best friend. What he is to me is a suspect. So you deal with that however you need 
to and you will give me your complete cooperation or you may find yourself out of a job. Jeez. 
Damn. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh. Intense Lindy. Yeah. It’s probably best I move on. But the kids were 
so happy to see you yesterday. I wasn’t unhappy. A good, right? This is an interesting way to have 
a private conversation. Is it over with Yla? Yes, absolutely. Completely over. If I never see 
her again, it’ll be too soon. Oh, sorry. I have feelings for you. Oh, 
I have feelings for you, too. Fight them anymore. Oh, boy. I think we should 
get together and talk tonight. Oh god, that would be great. Really great. But tonight, it’s a bad 
idea. Uh, we’ve got a big break in the Bay Harbor Butcher case that things are kind of intense 
around here. Oh, wow. Did they catch him? Well,   someone’s going to go down for it tomorrow. Would 
be really great. I’m so worried what Laya’s going to do to her. Kidnap her, torture her. I’m just 
I’m so scared, John. She going to burn her house down. I hate this. I don’t know. kidnap the kids. 
I I don’t know. We’re getting together tomorrow. Communication’s the key. My man. Fortunately, a 
car isn’t the only way to reach the Everglades. My new marina is only a 20minute walk. You going 
to take the boat? Oh, Christ. I’m on my way. You don’t need Oh, golly. I don’t like it. I don’t 
like it. I’m worried about this. You got to talk to Lundy about what? Get him to hold off on 
putting Dos on the news. Maybe you should talk to   Lendy. I tried. You’re one of us. Do is one of 
us. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. Look, Lieutenant, I know he’s your friend and 
we’re all pretty [ __ ] up about this,   but it is Lundy’s ball game. Oh, boy. You’re his 
right hand. Bright hand. Just say it. [ __ ] the euphemisms. And okay, I may be sleeping with 
him. Bro. Bro, you’re sleeping with London? Oh, no. sleeping at your place again tonight. 
Oh my. Just one more trip ahead of schedule. That’s right, mother. It’s over. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. 
Surprise once again. How’d you find me? GPS tap on your boat. No. Jesus Christ, Morgan. Jesus 
[ __ ] Christ. You’re the Bay Harbor Butcher. Wow. Jesus Christ, man. Man, you said that. I 
always knew there was something with you. Yes, this [ __ ] Please tell me this is a dream 
sequence or my buddies thought I was crazy for   becoming a cop. I had skills. I could have written 
my own ticket. All right, it’s not. And lately, I thought they might have been right, but this 
this makes it all worth it. Oh my god, dude. Oh my god. Slow down. Whoa. 
Whoa, dude. Oh my god. No. Ow. Is he going to kill dogs? He’s innocent. 
You can’t, right? Code of hair. He shouldn’t get him on the leg. Oh. Oh my. If he gets Oh, you’re going to have 
to kill me, Morgan. Have to [ __ ] kill me, Morgan. Wow. Is this where this episode 
ends? No way. Oh my god. This was crazy. Wow. Surprise. Wow. All right, that was 
episode nine of season 2. We’re not going to make you wait in suspense. We’re just going to 
get right into episode 10 right about now. There’s something about hair. What is that in reference 
to? He’s going to do his hair up with blood. Hey, is it deep? Oh, I hope it’s [ __ ] deep. 
Surprise. Gray’s wounded by her tissue abrasion. No hemorrhage along the bullet 
track. Sorry. I think I’m going to live. Am I? You’re not going to let me go, Morgan, 
and kill me now. Just get it over with. God,   I adise you not to tempt me just now. Wow. You’re 
a killer. I catch killers. So do I. I caught you. I’m not a killer. You killed a couple people. You 
are. That’s why you’ve always known what I am. That’s why you have more officer related shootings 
than anybody else. Oh, only I don’t [ __ ] with you when you shoot somebody. Why couldn’t you pay 
me the same professional courtesy? There’s nothing   professional about what you do. He’s got a good 
point. I kill when I have to on the job. That’s what he’s doing. The city pays me to keep the 
law. Oh boy. My code requires a higher standard of proof than your city’s laws. It’s a zero cost 
for the taxpayer. You ask me, I’m a bargain. Oh, my man. Oh, boy. This is a great interaction. 
What’s it going to be, Morgan? Earth versus me. What’s it going to be? Kill me now. Set me free. 
Oh, my subpoena for Dope’s phone records came   through. He isn’t much of a talker. Not a lot of 
friends, I’m guessing. Except for one. Check this out. Oh, no. That’s Lieutenant’s phone number. 
And look at the time and date. Ooh. But right after we launched the mana, we could have traced 
that call. Oh [ __ ] Sergeant Dos wouldn’t have stayed on long enough. Like wherea should have 
given us the chance. You’re going to ream her,   aren’t you? Oh no. Deb going to be there when 
you do it. It’s kind of a hobby. Deb, you can re yourself. Oh yeah, I totally forgot in season one. 
She was so mean to her. I totally forgot about that. Seriously though, that would just get me in 
deeper [ __ ] with her. And the Gord already hates   me. You know, I’m not always going to be around to 
run interference. Oh. Oh my god. Don’t Don’t throw foreshadow on me now. Oh, come on. You got at 
least five 10 good years left in you. Why did they have to say that line? I mean, I won’t be around 
once this case ends. So, a reming will be good practice for you after I’m gone. Oh [ __ ] Taking 
a life is one thing, but the care and feeding of it is another. I can’t keep my problem locked away 
in a cabin forever. No. Yeah. The situation got a lot more complicated. They always said there 
were plenty of people who deserve to die. But   no matter how hard I close my eyes and wish Do 
isn’t one of them. Yeah, it’s been a long night. You never prepared me for this one. Yeah, what 
do I do? Come on. There’s something about Harry. Let’s go. Get a description of my nest patrol 
unit in the city and wake up Judge Mhouse. I   need a warrant. I thought that was Randy Quay. 
You get that right. Whoa. Get back inside the car like I told you. This is crazy to see them. 
That was a Oh my god. Guy who did this is an evil bastard. You know who it was? Oh yeah. I’ve been 
trying to nail him for a while. Pip named Juan   Res. She was one of his girls. She was dumped. 
Right. Nail your ass. Get back in the trunk. His hair kind of reminds me of Ben Stiller. And 
there’s Something about Mary. You for real? You got to visit her. Surprise, mother. Laya Rita 
coffee. Yeah, why not? Oh, he’s smiling at him. Sergeant Dos is the Bay Harbor Butcher. That’s 
what they’re saying. Oh, boy. Why is the FBI guarding your building? Oh, you know the federal 
government any excuse to spend money. Jeez, how are the kids? We add that to the intro to the 
title sequence. They asked about you again. We’ve been pretty confused since we split up. Yeah, 
me too. Are you still confused? I’m generally confused most of the time. Same, bro. Not about 
us, dude. No. Oh. Oh. Oh [ __ ] The kids have been through so much lately with death and my 
mom moving out. Oh, play a psycho woman doesn’t do anything to them. You don’t want them to feel 
like they’ve been abandoned by everyone they love. Oh, is that blood on his shirt right there? 
No, I think it’s the I was wondering that,   too. I think it’s the part of the shirt. Yeah. 
Yeah, it’s where the button’s sewn on. You’re right. You’re right. That would be kind of fast, 
wouldn’t it? You’re so important to them, and they need you. I don’t know. Oh, boy. Take your time. 
Maybe we could just hang. Yeah, date again. Like a sloth. I can do that. I’ve been selfish, only 
thinking about what happens to me. But if I were ever revealed as the true Bay Harbor Butcher, 
Rita and her children would be destroyed. Oh,   buddy. I I love that he cares about others like 
that. You didn’t report the call from Dos. Your task force doesn’t need my help railroading a good 
cop. Woof. Do was officially a person of interest. Not reporting that call could be considered aiding 
in a better. None of you wanted to hear what he   had to say, so I didn’t tell you. Woof. Woof. What 
did he have to say? that he’s innocent. And you believe him? Yeah. What do you think? And if he 
calls again, he won’t. And you know this because I know him. Yeah. Lundy wants to flag me to Captain 
Matthews, you tell him to go for it. But James knows I believe in him, so it was worth the risk. 
Dude, you cannot compare the I know him. You can’t compare the ice truck killer to someone she’s 
known forever. Do you ever care about anyone, Morgan? Yeah. Yeah. Biny, then you shouldn’t have 
to ask. When you care about someone, you do what you have to do. Yeah. Damn. Of the 46 slides, 18 
belong to previously known butcher victims still running the DNA, but we’ve matched an additional 
12 with felons in the criminal database,   all reported missing. Do you have the new victim’s 
jackets? Sorry, sir. Not my responsibility. Oh, Christ. That would be me. Each of the 12 had at 
least one homicide on their records. And we all know how the butcher loves a killer. Hey, they 
have 12 new butcher victims. Potential victims. You got names, man. If I keep this all working 
together now. Why you got an angle of ducks?   Uggh. Oh, is that calling him my razor phone? This 
is a waste of time. Do is the butcher. We’re not going to find trace evidence on his clothes. The 
guy we’re after is way too careful for that. Have   to agree with you there. Hey. All those times you 
called me lab geek, fairy winkle, donkey fluffer. Oh, I’m just glad I took it lying down, you know. 
Surprise, Donkey Fluffer. Told Lundy to pull your protective detail. Oh, she’s going to hit you, 
isn’t she? She’s going to hit someone if you   don’t get the [ __ ] out of here. Yeah, bully 
may not be manly, but it’s very effective. Wow, bro. Deb Dos is a lot of things, but he’s not an 
idiot. He won’t come out of the shadows because   of a grudge. Only the turtles come out of the 
shadows. The serial killers are so practical. Actually, they are. I’m safer with Lundy’s troops 
hunting doses than babysitting me. Lundy agreed. Just cuz Lundy doesn’t give a [ __ ] All he cares 
about is solving this case and moving on. Deb, I thought he was the guy you could count on. 
You are the only one I can count on. Oh, De. Yeah, that really de express her feelings. 
She does. That hit her hard when he said that he’s going to be leaving after 
the case. 100%. This isn’t just about   me anymore. It’s about Deb and Rita and the 
kids. Only one choice for Dos. Oh no. Oh no. He’s finally learning what Spider-Man goes 
through. Yes. It’s hard being Peter Parker,   man. Oh. Oh, you got the box. What’s in 
the box? Come on out. Oh my god, dude. Second. Uh. Uhoh. Uhoh. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, 
no. Oh, I hate it. I hate it, Andrew. I hate it. No reason for you to suffer. I mean, you’ve been 
cooking all day. You come to a decision? Yes, but I don’t think you’re going to like him. Oh, 
no. Regardless of how we got here, one of the two killers in this cabin has to go away. I am not a 
killer. I have people who depend on me. They would be devastated if they found out what I did. You’re 
more of a lone wolf. Easier to put down. No one in the back to miss you. You got family. We met them. 
[ __ ] you, Morgan. I have a family. I have my   mother, my sisters. You never visit. And you don’t 
eat the cheesecake. If you had a personal life, you might not have made me your obsession and we 
wouldn’t be here right now. Woof. Oh no. Sergeant, why would you hide a dead drug dealer’s cell 
phone from me? You working on an exit strategy? I’m afraid that’s not going to happen. Oh boy. If 
you want to bring me down, Morgan, you’re going   to have to open this goddamn cage first. So, come 
on. Bring it. I already did. I just didn’t know it. Oh, it’s in the water. Oh, no. No. Oh, boy. 
[ __ ] The sedative works fast. It’s probably best just to go with it. You think you’re a [ __ ] 
hero, don’t you? Cleaning up the [ __ ] streets. Your old man would be proud. Ooh. Oh boy. My old 
man was proud. Oh my god. He really was a [ __ ] whack job. Name calling at this juncture. Oh, my 
father was a legend on the force. Is that what you think? Oh no. They never told you. Oh Jesus. 
Told me. Told me what? that there’s something about terribly discharged or something. What about 
my father? What about my father? A [ __ ] Oh, you can’t kill him now, huh? Yeah, he needs to know. 
Oh, I hate it. Do said I had two choices. Kill him or let him go, but he neglected to look behind 
door number three. Hand him over to the FBI. Gift wrap. I don’t need Do’s dead. I just need his 
fingerprints to complete my frame job. Oh my god. Every Saturday, beginning dive classes practice 
underwater skills beside this dock. Tomorrow, they’ll find a morbid little surprise. I like the 
colorcoded boats. When the feds receive these kill tools with their suspects prints on them, the 
only threat to me will be the inane rants of   a murderous madman. So close I can feel it. Uh, 
is that Oh, that noise. Are we sure about this? This tragic tale might still end in D’s demise, 
but not by my hands. Harry’s legacy will remain intact. Oh, Harry. Why in the hell did have 
to bring up Harry? Of course. Cuz we got we need more drama, man. We got to bring some more 
tension out. It’s only episode 10. God damn it. Jesus. Whoa. Rinus is going to walk because of 
a goddamn typo. Faulty warrant, Harry. There’s nothing we can do. This is [ __ ] Don’t worry. 
Will make another mistake. We’re just going to wait for him to kill another girl. Let’s get 
the parents of Elm Street to light a fire on   this guy. Yeah. You okay, Dad? I did the right 
thing in training you. This just proves it. I did the right thing. Yeah. Sometimes the lawful way is 
not the only way. Harry was a little unhinged. So, I said something. Only that this relationship 
has an expiration date. When did I say that?   Yesterday morning. You said when the case 
ends, we end. I’m paraphrasing. Well, don’t paraphrase. I thought you understood when we 
got involved. I track killers. That’s what I do. They tend to move around. Uggh. I’m not sure what 
you thought would happen when the case ended. Keep in touch. Honestly, I hadn’t thought about it, 
but it looks like you have, so now I know. Love. Oh my god. Sorry, but what’s with the highlights? 
I was uh helping Laya paint a laugh last night. Paid for my lift ticket. Where’s my snow? Don’t 
make me come after you. Sounds like Mr. Harlo is not only master of metaphor, but also inclined 
toward violent confrontation. Better find out   who he is in case. Yeah, I think to your point, 
John, we could definitely see a situation where Lela comes to the beach. Christopher Harlo, known 
alias for Joseé Garza, narcotics, armed robbery, and currently a fugitive from justice for murder. 
Damn. With caution. Woof. I was thinking about your birthday. Just get me a gift certificate 
on Amazon. Good to know. But the birthday I   was thinking about was when dad threw the beer 
bottle. It’s on your birthday. Out of the blue, Dex. What brought that up? Harry’s been on my 
mind lately. I was trying to remember. Matthews   came over that night, right? Yeah. He and dad got 
in a fight. Friaking Matthews. I ended up wiping beer off the walls. Happy birthday to me. Happy 
beer day. Hey, killer went free. That would upset any cop, right? Nothing weird about that. No, it 
wasn’t weird. It’s just another example of dad’s   priorities. Kids versus case. Case always won. 
What about Danny? I’m picking up Audi. Remember? We’re meeting Dexter and Rita at the beach. 
Bro, I at Miami Art Museum teaches an incredible children’s class. You can bring the whole gang if 
you like. You know, with your history with Dexter,   it might be a little awkward. He’s trying to 
work things out with Rita. No, bro. Don’t. No. Is he now? No. Gremlin, I could have killed you. 
I didn’t. I don’t want to. You didn’t because you can’t have time to think about this more. I don’t 
fit that code you were talking about, do I? Hey, you know how I’ve been looking into your past, 
right? I found something I wasn’t supposed to see.   A photo of your butt. Your father’s death. Heart 
disease. Nope. Big mystery. Bigger than that. And someone up high didn’t want it solved. Oh no, 
you’re lying. Wow. It was buried deep, but it was there. Oh, [ __ ] What was there? Oh my god, 
dude. No. Sure. Special ops taught you to rattle your captor, but I should warn you, Sergeant, you 
can’t play on my feelings. I don’t have any. Yeah, I was waiting for that. Oh, really? Who’s lying 
now? Hey, that’s the question of the show. I want to know if there was anything unusual 
about my father’s death. His heart gave up.   You know that? I heard there was more to it. from 
home. Does it matter? Was there a shooter? Yeah, I guess it was inevitable you’d find out one 
of these days. Uh, Margot Martindale squealled,   didn’t she? He was a great cop. It’s a tough 
job. It can wear on even the best of us. Father was always firmly in control. That he 
was, but towards the end. Oh, no. The system doesn’t always work. Sometimes they get away. You 
know that. Oh, did he go hunt somebody down? Oh, snap. How? The autopsy showed an overdose of his 
heart medicine. Jesus, that happens all the time. People accidentally take the wrong dose. He called 
me the day before he died. Oh my god. Asked me to keep an eye on you and your sister. I didn’t 
realize what that call meant till he was gone.   Yeah. So, I made sure that autopsy never saw the 
light of day. Wow. I was looking out for the two of you like I said I would. Oh, this is bonkers. 
I’m sorry, Dexter. Listen, why don’t we uh go to the club and have a drink? We can talk some more. 
No, the legendary Harry Morgan, force for justice, architect of all that I am. It doesn’t make sense. 
Yeah. That James Stokes can’t possibly be the Bay Harbor Butcher. Oh, no. We were doing surveillance 
when one of your new victims, Larry Mueller, went missing. James and I were holed up in a motel room 
24/7 for two weeks. He didn’t have time to piss, much less abduct and murder a man. Yeah, I’m 
afraid this proves nothing. No, it proves that he was with me. It’s all here. Specific dates and 
times. These are my personal stake out logs. Oh, no. You can’t just ignore legitimate evidence. I 
can and I will ignore it because you gave me no choice. Lady. Lady. And your credibility was 
compromised the second you failed to report   a phone call. Yeah. It was a breach of protocol 
and ethics. He’s got a point. Always thought my father died of heart disease. I just found out 
that’s not true. He committed. Oh my god. That’s good. Open up. I don’t know why. Why he would 
do that to himself or me or Deb. Oh baby. Oh. Oh baby. Found out where your cabin is. On my 
way. I want my [ __ ] snow. God damn. God damn. Oh, ruies. You just not my normal kind 
of customer. You know what I mean? Oh, you stole the Toll King. Yeah, seriously, bro. You 
asked me what I thought would happen when the case ended. And the truth is, I had no [ __ ] idea. 
And that was exciting. Yeah. What might happen, what could be, it was all possibility. 
You’re here. And when you just assumed that we ended when the case ended, you crushed 
that. Yeah. Yeah. Then want it back. Deborah, want to know what I thought would happen 
when the case ended? I thought the novelty   of my AARP discount would wear off 
and you’d get tired of me. Oh my god. The sweetest thing you’ve ever said. They’re so cute. Yeah, they really are. What 
do we got? I hit on one of Do’s false IDs at a car rental agency. Make, model, and 
license plate. Let’s go. I hate this. Oh, what is Lyla up to? I hate this angel with 
those roofies. You ever try and run in the sand? I never run. You’re a better man 
than me. I’m glad you think so. Oh, okay. Surprise, [ __ ] Good transition. But 
I’m so I’m so worried about Angel,   man. He’s a known murderer and your final victim. Oh my god, that’s light at the end of the 
tunnel. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are we doing? Oh, she’s using She’s using that. 
What are we doing? Laya, you want a beer? Hey, not bad. That was pretty smooth. What? What? 
No. No. No. What happened? What happened? Oh, I hate it. I hate it. She cut herself 
down. Hate it. I hate it. No, please. No, please. No. Yes. This is Detective Angel Batista 
from Miami Metro Homicide. I need an ambulance. You go after killers. You take out killers. I get 
that. But this this is some sick [ __ ] ritual,   man. You need help. Let me help you, man. Don’t 
worry, Sergeant. I won’t make you watch. I’m not univilized. Oh my god. This is Turn him over 
to the law. I live by my father’s law. Oh no. Oh, you can hear that crunch. That’s gooey. 
Squatch intensifies. Sorry it had to go down like this, Sergeant, but there really was no 
other way. Oh boy. Stay away. Just stay away from me. Whoa. I’ve heard those words before. 
Three days before my father’s death. Oh no. Hey, Dad. Whoa. Look what I did. Oh my god. It’s 
Juan Reinus, the pimp who killed that girl. Oh, the one at the beginning of that flashback. Oh 
god. Oh, Harry. Yeah, the one that the typo with the warrant or whatever. Ah, Harry, say it. Stay 
away from me. Oh no. Stay away. Please stay away. Oh damn. Me. That is a those are triggering words. 
The idea of a code was one thing. A noble cause, but the reality of it. Harry walked 
in on what he created and he couldn’t   live with himself. Oh man, I hate 
it. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it. God, look at that. Look at the look in his eyes. 
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What an episode. Donald Andrew. All right, guys. That was season 2 episode 10. Well, we’re going 
to break from the norm right now. Donald, hey, I think we’re gonna answer some questions that we 
got before we get into episode two or episode two. Yeah, we’re going to go back to episode and then 
we’re going to come back. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.   Now, we’re going to answer some questions before 
we get into episode 11, season two. So, yeah, we do have a couple specifically uh geared questions 
for the for the last two episodes we just did. So, couple of episodes. Oh my god. Thank you guys for 
chiming in. I mean, you know, we’re going to give   everyone their time, but we’re also going to hop 
on pretty quick, too. Episodes 11 and 12 to end off the season. Oh my god. I am I actually I could 
use a breather. I’m I’m exhausted right now. Okay. Alrighty. Let’s uh let’s see who’s kicking us off. 
Andrew and John from KJ Gold. All right. Loving the Dexter reaction so far. Fun trivia. We do love 
some fun trivia. Dexter’s forensics colleague, Vince Masuka, is played by CS Lee, who has 
appeared in another show you both reacted to.   He’s most unrecognizable as the vicious Master Kim 
Suny Young in the final season of Cobra Kai. Yes, we did mention that a couple times already, but 
thank you for pointing that out. Not to steal your thunder, it it has come up and my mind continues 
to be blown by this fact. Yeah. No, we we did look it up and we saw like he’s got prosthetic 
makeup to make him look older, of course, and   then the the mustache and all that. But yeah, that 
that’s a cool fact. Thank you for sharing that, kid. Absolutely. He’s a great actor. He’s so 
versatile that you would never I remember when   we first saw him, we both were like, “Where have 
we seen this actor before? He looks so familiar.” And then when we found it out, we’re like, “What?” 
Mind blown. So yeah, I every time I see him now, I keep like looking at him like, “Okay, maybe I 
can fill in the prosthetics and the and the wigs and the, you know, fake beard and all that stuff.” 
I know when you rewatch season six of Cobraai,   now you’re just going to wait for a sexual 
innuendo. I know what you’re thinking under there. You posturing like you’re some tough old 
dude. No, I see you. Yes. No mercy. Love that fact though. Appreciate you. All right, Landon Miller, 
real quick for Andrew and John. What did you think about Dos finding the blood slides? And how do you 
feel about Dex locking Dos in the cabin instead   of killing him? I mean, I was really worried when 
Dos found it, of course. And I originally assumed that cuz we had a question at the end of the 
last episodes like, do you think he’s going to,   you know, use the the power of the authorities 
or do you think he’s going to do it himself individually? And I said he’s I mean, at this 
point, he’s not going to go. I didn’t think he was   going to do it with the authorities going to do it 
himself. So, and then what was the other part of the question? What do I think about him blocking 
doses in right? Yeah. I mean, I will say this, like I even though it’s when I say cat and 
mouse, obviously he’s not like chasing him,   but I love the whole cat and mouse type of 
interaction that they have going back and forth between them. They’re so freaking good. These two 
actors, Michael Sehon, I’m so sorry I forgot the actor’s name who plays doses. He is so the way he 
is able to emote with his eyes. Whether it’s like Eric King. Eric Eric King. He is He’s so freaking 
good. The way Eric is able to emote with his eyes, whether it’s like the surprise look, mother. Yes. 
Yes. French fries with root eyes. Some pies. All rise. Yes. But the way he’s able to emote, whether 
it’s like in wonder or like discovery or like, you know, he’s like distraught, he’s just so damn 
good and like you know exactly what he’s thinking right away and it’s it’s but it’s like really 
it’s powerful too when he does it or Yeah. So, uh but I love it. I just anytime that there and 
and and John made a great point too what he said like in the first episode you’re like you didn’t 
think we were going to like him that much like we were like we’re meant to hate this character but 
like as the show has developed his character and   we’ve grown to know more about him like he’s just 
such a fascinating character and he’s like really got this presence about him and like it’s it’s 
almost mesmerizing when he’s on the screen and I just I I think him and Dexter it’s like some of 
my favorite interactions like when you watch them   on the show together. So, yeah, he’s really 
fascinating character. What about you? Yeah, I love the opposing nature of the two of them. I 
love watching them together. I love, as much as   it can be agonizing in the moment of watching 
the show, I do love having this, as you said, cat-and- mouse game between a cat and a mouse, 
both of which I like. You know, obviously it’s Dexter. We’re following Dexter, but Dos, I mean, 
like, you know, he stands on his own business and uh I really love watching him. I really love 
what he brings and I really while I am sort of uh you know I’m caught up in the tension of the 
fact that he has taken him prisoner essentially uh at the same time like it is fascinating to 
see the layers of dogs’s character that have been coming and going through this process watching 
the cop doses you know watching well I feel like at first you have the headstrong doses who you 
know has his beef with Dexter then we go a layer   deeper into cop doses you know really just trying 
to deescalate the situation. And then finally, I feel like Do’s accepting and kind of succumbing 
to just how horrific this and twisted this moment, this situation is. Uh, and it’s like, you know, 
you’re sitting here hoping that there could be   some kind of understanding or redemption or I 
don’t know what. And you know that, you know, these two characters are probably never going to 
ever see eye to eye. And it just fascinates me to   know how like this is a fun position to be in in 
the season because I think I again as we’ve said on a lot of these talks I admire that they haven’t 
really pulled any punches and they have really   gone for you know what’s going to create the most 
tension what’s going to you know really cut to and uh cut to the quick and surprise the audience and 
uh you know I never expected at the start of the show that we would be here with doses already 
by season two and um yeah I mean coming back to the bloodslides Uh it’s just the way that that 
even turned around like they’re good at yeah like coming up with a situation where you’re like okay 
this is absolutely the worst case scenario for   Dexter. this is this body of evidence. But the 
flip around, you know, them basically bringing him in and being like, “We need you to analyze 
all these slides,” I thought was really fun.   And and yeah, like, you know, it makes sense 
that he would go and try to get the, you know, samples analyzed or do his own, you know, off 
the record, you know, investigation of this. Um, you know, it’s handy that he, I guess, left the, 
you know, slides in the car in America and was   like doing this thing not all in one trip. I guess 
part of me would would go back and kind of examine those details just because, you know, if he had 
taken them with him obviously on the trip and just got it all done in one if he’d brought them 
with him for the negotiation before securing the, you know, uh, go-ahad from his friend or at least 
the cooperation of his, you know, exacquaintance there. Uh, you know, I’m sure things would be 
different now. Uh but yeah, like it’s definitely been a great driver of tension and it’s definitely 
created some really fascinating back and forth I think between the characters because yeah, like 
their whole talk about the fact that Dos can see   him and the difference in the ways that they have 
killed and they have executed the law. Uh yeah, like I you know, you want it all to work out 
somehow. I don’t feel like it can. And now   it’s just up to them to stick the landing of the 
season and I hope that they can. I hope that they do. Yeah. Yeah. You made and you made a great 
point because we’re like past the point of no   return. It feels like what is the Yeah. So many. 
It’s like what is the resolve going to be? And I think like how does Do stay on the show? Does he 
stay on the show? I assume he better because he’s   such a damn good adversary and foil to Dexter. 
Yeah. And like they have it’s interesting like they have different ideologies because one I mean 
like uh one like he obviously Dexter like operates in a morally gray like you know area whereas do 
follows the law even though sometimes he goes into that morally gray area too. Sure. So it’s like 
you know but I think they’re they’re they’re like the contrast between them is just so fascinating 
and you love both the characters. So that’s this is why I love the show so much. Like you don’t 
want to see you’re so emotionally invested in   these characters. You don’t want to see anything 
happen. And I think that’s like why in real time too as we were reacting like that’s why we’re like 
we don’t want to see anything happen to London.   We don’t want to see anything happen to Angel. 
It’s like they made it they’ve really gotten us to really care for these characters a great deal. 
And also too I’m still like I’m not saying that Tom wasn’t being truthful. The lieutenant or 
captain whatever he is. I still want I I still   want more information on the on the dad if that’s 
really what happened. Again, he seemed genuine, but I don’t know. Again, the show is thrown so 
many curveballs. Yeah. All that was heavy, too, Yeah. it was. I’m just I’m not saying it’s not 
true. I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if   it wasn’t is all is all. Yeah. So, we’ll see. God. 
All right. Sunrock, here we go. Andrew and John, thank you so much for chiming in here. At this 
point, the show presents us with two villains or   foes for Dexter in Laya and Dos. What do you guys 
make of that tension in the two types of obstacles we have for Dexter? And how does that alter, if at 
all, your feelings about Dexter as our quote hero? I’m fascinated by the Do Dexter relationship in 
particular and eager to hear your guys’ thoughts. Yeah, I mean uh yeah, you know, two antagonists 
absolutely this season. And and I would say too that you know, Dexter has certainly been an 
antagonist of the season and an antagonist to himself as well as others because again with all 
the Laya stuff, uh you know, she has brought in, you know, helping him accept certain aspects 
of his personality and heal certain aspects of   his trauma, she has brought out this more, you 
know, megalomaniacal version of him. this this, you know, overconfident, you know, the the kind of 
person looking down on everybody else that a lot of serial killers can come across as. You know, 
she’s kind of like her influence turns him into the more sort of uh textbook idea or demeanor 
that you might associate with a sort of yeah, grandstanding serial killer. And you know, he’s 
sending out this like fake manifesto and stuff   and he’s like making the cops dance to his music 
and he gets a little sloppy in this place. And you know, I I feel like the way that both of 
them have caused him to work against himself, whether that be in, you know, action or in 
thought, has been really fascinating. And I mean, like the cat and mouse with dogs has been really 
fun. I very much enjoyed the more chill side of   that where it’s just like something’s up with 
you, man, and I don’t like you. And then, you know, having him vindicated here and, 
you know, to have it all revealed, you know,   it’s fun to have an antagonist. Yeah. Who’s not 
necessarily like a traditional villain because obviously like he’s technically working for 
the law, you know, and he’s technically trying   to get Dexter to stop killing people at the bare 
minimum. Uh, so yeah, I I like the dynamics here and the fact that after the first season and I 
would assume in future seasons having, you know, a particular serial killer of the season to do 
part two or, you know, season two as, you know, it’s Dexter, it’s the Bay Harbor Butcher, you 
know, that’s the serial killer, and we’re going   to use both familiar and new characters to warp 
this person in on themselves as they try to thwart being, you know, revealed. and had you know it’s I 
think it’s yeah it’s I mean Dexter in this season to me has certainly sort of had to grapple with 
the idea of his villain and his heroism in equal measure and you know the more he has been healed 
in the Laya story line the worse he’s gotten the more villainous he has become the less of the 
hero the more self-erving you know and so yeah to have these various characters kind of show 
him like oh man you know my life with Laya and   the kids is like so crucial it’s it’s almost part 
of the code because it’s what keeps him with any degree of morality and compassion, you know. Yeah. 
No, it’s been fascinating to watch him this whole identity crisis that he went through uh especially 
in the early part of the season as like, you know, he saw like his whole worldview of Harry, his his 
f his foster father rather, kind of shattered a little bit and what he thought was, you know, 
what he taught him and everything was a lie.   So yeah, to have that re reh reestablished back 
has been really interesting to watch. When it comes to jokes, you know, like I mean we I kind of 
already went into it when it comes to him just I I I I think he presents like a mental obstacle 
but also like he can be a physical obstacle as well for him. So I think that’s what makes it so 
fascinating the two of them. But when it comes to   Laya, like I found it very interesting that right 
away she she immediately recognized that facade in him because she had it in herself, you know, 
that that dark passenger and she detected that   [ __ ] meter immediately. And like that’s what 
makes their relationships and not sweet anymore, but like bittersweet, I guess you could say, but 
messed up as well. But she isn’t a very like now we obviously dislike her and like I’m very curious 
of her endgame what she’s trying to do because we we thought like she had put the roofies in 
Angel’s uh wine and now she put it uh in or she took it herself. So I’m very curious setting him 
up man. Yeah. No, I’m curious what her end game is. But like again, I I I like the mental obstacle 
that she is, you know, uh opposing for for uh for Dexter. But I like that again, he’s kind of just 
like when he’s with her, he’s like kind of just questioning himself, questioning his morale, his 
identity. And I uh I think this is a a fascinating and dramatic way to to take the character and 
to establish uh him and give him again just an emotional arc throughout the season. But yeah, 
again, you mentioned to uh what was it? Keith Keredine and uh Deb in regards to did they have 
like a an on-screen test uh right with uh for Oh, yeah. Like a chemistry test. Chemistry test. I 
feel like I don’t know if you feel the same way,   but I I feel like and I know we didn’t really 
have any interactions really with them the last two episodes. I feel like him and Laya had 
a lot of chemistry as well. The actors Oh,   they Yeah. And I mean they would have absolutely 
chemistry taken two of them. I could see them too, but like these uh uh what is it? Keith, Keredine, 
Llaya, like such good additions. I feel like Lundy too is kind of a good obstacle. I would even 
add as well just because and I know he’s not specifically looking at Dexter right now. He’s 
kind of it’s more towards Dos now. And I think it’s so fascinating like when you and we the 
audience and Dexter obviously know the truth   that Dos is not the Butch the uh Butch Harbor 
Bay Harbor Butch Butch Harbor. Here’s me with my Mr. Match. Yes. Go ahead. Let’s get ice cream 
butcher truck killers. The Bay Harbor. Anyways, we we the audience know uh who what the truth 
is, but like when everything has been presented   to us and like this is very uh like it’s actually 
justified and why he has come to this conclusion and then you get the thing with is like yeah 
this is actually justified and uh and and this is evidence right here but what you did before 
with not coming to us with that call like it you breached ethics and you breached uh you know 
you’re do you know I’m like this is such damn good writing Like I I love when they plant these kinds 
of seeds, then there’s a payoff in the end. So, and again, I know like he’s not particularly 
an obstacle yet for Dexter, but again, I’m I’m anxious to see that resolve as well with 
Lundy. Yeah. But I thought there was some great   writing as well too in regards to, and I know this 
isn’t part of this question. I’m sorry to veer off a little bit, but I thought there was a that 
that scene too when it came to with Lundy and Deb. That was so that was so well written that he’s 
like I was kind of pulling away in this moment,   too, because I was I was afraid that you were 
going to get kind of sick of me. I’m like, “Oh, that was so sweet.” And then she’s like, “That was 
like the sweetest thing anyone’s ever said to me.”   I’m like, “I really love those two characters.” 
So, I’m like, it’s amazing like when we can pull away from like the main, you know, uh uh plot 
of the the a plot of of the season and we can still be so invested in the other things. I think 
that’s like credit to the writers like to make us   care about some of these other, you know, B and 
C plots, character beats that are going on. Yeah, they’re really well conceived across whole seasons 
and in individual episode form. And yeah, there’s no character or plot line I’m begrudged to check 
in with. Like I do at the moment anyway still love the whole range of the ensemble. Yeah. To and to 
that point really quick, we’ll get to the next   question. There’s sometimes where I’ll rewatch a 
show. I’ll be like, “Nah, I don’t care about this this character beat or this plot. I’m I’m fast 
forwarding through it. Let’s get to the next one.”   So, and I’ve like granted like this is a first 
time watch and we can’t fast forward obviously, but there’s so far there’s not been one character 
beat or one plot where I’m like I’m really bored by this. We just move on. Yeah. So, let’s let’s 
again credit it to the writer room. Heck yeah. All right, Maui E. You crank that Soulja Boy. I think 
the addition of Jamie Murray was a great choice. She plays Laya. She is amazing. Um, she’s also in 
Spartacus, a series I wish Reax reacts to before the spin-off series begins. I can never make 
any promises here as to what will be reacted to, but uh, you know, it’s definitely something that 
has been requested and, uh, I would be thrilled for a chance to check it out. So, keep an eye out. 
might happen. I’ve never seen it. I’ve only heard   good things. But in regards to Jamie Murray, she’s 
fantastic. And again, just with what she does with the character, I love how uh just emotional she 
is, how manipulative she can be, how like present she can be, how she can like be the joyous one 
in the room. Like she’s just very versatile when it comes to how she is in this role. Again, her 
chemistry with Dexter is so good. Her chemistry   with the other actors is so good. I love the way 
she like goes her bickering back and forth with Deb in the the few interactions we’ve seen. She 
is so good and we love to hate her, too. Yeah. No, she’s Yeah. And she’s really really attractive, 
too. Yeah. She entered and the second again like she has this look about her that just feels kind 
of unique from everybody else in any room that she’s in, especially, you know, in Miami. Uh and 
then the second she starts speaking and you know the British accent and all that stuff you know 
she there’s so much about the character that is   I think intentionally very arresting and yeah you 
know perfectly kind of embodied in her performance and two I mean I think she encapsulates a really 
good back and forth between the moments where you’re like ah I can tell she’s putting it on 
or she’s manipulating a situation then other   times where she starts talking sense and seems 
very cleareyed and very again you know wise to some degree. of experience. Uh yeah, like this is 
a character who you got to hate in the right ways and you have to have understood the temptation of 
and uh at least for my viewing experience, yeah, I think uh her performance, she’s understood the 
assignment quite well. And yeah, the character has   certainly is is currently leaving an impression, 
you know, in a lot of ways a hater, but in the right way. Yeah. I mean, she did again, like you 
said, she did her job and make us hate her. That’s   what she’s supposed to do. And I’m not not only 
am I hoping Angel survives because we love the charact because we love the character so much, but 
I want him to have bragging duties against Vince   as well in at the end of this season and into next 
season. But he’s going to be like Vince will be like you someone who’s in like justifiably insane. 
I’m like, “Yeah, but she’s really hot.” Well, and it makes me wonder how decorate her room and 
her Yeah. Oh god. It makes me wonder how deep her rabbit hole uh goes. Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. 
uh in that we’ve obviously seen her capable of arson and of various fraudulent activities and 
she obviously had no trouble going and picking up those roofies. So, you know, like it makes me 
wonder to what degree her monstrousness, you know, how far and wide does it reach? You know, what 
what do we not know about this person? You know, how many bodies is she responsible for? And really 
quickly again, she said, it’s a little foggy   and misty. Maybe you’ll remind me, but she said 
something about her boyfriend when she got killed him. Like she said like she they were on drugs or 
something and then she knew what she was doing. I   don’t I don’t I don’t I feel like she was like she 
was stretching the truth a little there. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But uh good addition. Good good 
chaos. A agreed. Great actress. All right, Jay Rush. What up, Jay? Thank you so much for chiming 
in. Speaking of your boy, uh, like on Dexter, who got the best fashion there? It’s got to be Angel. 
Angel, honestly, it’s Angel. Enough said. I mean, Laya does have obviously a strong fashion sense. 
I like her better when she’s not wearing clothes, though. That, you know, and she also has a taste 
in fine lingerie. So, obviously, you got to shout Laya out. Uh, but Angel 100%. silk shirts, 
the patterns, his little hats, all that stuff, the goatee. My man is dripping and uh and I love 
to see it. Sorry about the Vince comment there, guys, but you know, I had to attractive. My 
Mizuka, he’s also Yeah, pretty Vince has got some It’s pretty drippy. The whole bowling 
team, that’s who dresses the best. But, uh, leave us your comments. Who’s the best dressed on 
Dexter? All right, there we go. Laura Rain, this series is the highlight of my week, RS 2, thank 
you for joining us. I’m thrilled to join you both   as you experience this legendary series for the 
first time. I hope you’ll be watching the newest additions to the Dexter fam as well. I would love 
to do that. Uh my questions, how much do you think   Dexter spends on cleaning supplies? I hadn’t even 
thought about that. Yeah, man. A lot of plastic. Let’s start off one question at a time. How much 
do you think Dexter spends on cleaning supplies?   And at this point, are his kill rooms sponsored 
by Mr. Clean? Yeah, definitely sponsored by Mr. Clean. Definitely Dawn. What’s the one they use to 
to get oil off of baby ducks? I think that’s what   Dexter That’s Dawn, right? With the duck, right? 
That’s Dawn. Yeah. Want to want to take out body? Palm Olive Man. Yeah. Uh, how much is he spending? 
Uh, I don’t know. He’s spending $1,000. Upwards of $1,000 or more. I mean, well, I mean, he must 
have a bulk hookup for his plastic. Yeah. Uh, that he wraps all the rooms and stuff in. He must, 
you know, I mean, order a lot of garbage. Also,   too, sorry, not to cut you off. He’s also got to 
like keep that off the books so he doesn’t like buys it all in cash. Yeah, exactly. Cash. Well, or 
uses a dummy corporation. [ __ ] that it would be reasonable to keep on hand. Like the trash bags is 
one thing cuz you know, like what’s one trash bag every once in a while? But like yeah, the big 
old rolls of plastic obviously feel like yeah, it’s mostly that and then some kind of you 
know like some kind of liquid cleaner you would imagine. I mean the plastic takes care of a lot 
of that’s a lot of blood. I feel like much of your again in his, you know, the way he does things. 
I feel like you can pretty much just like crumple the plastic up and then you’re good. You just toss 
the plastic and you’re done with it. So maybe it’s   actually less expensive than you think. What about 
all the the the gear that he’s wearing? Does you just throw it away or Well, you know, I mean, 
like in the laundry, he’s got his like smoks and stuff like that. Yeah, I got to imagine he just 
like washes them off or whatever. It’s got to be   repeat usage. I’m going I I don’t know how much, 
but I’m going to imagine it’s less than you would imagine. And definitely, I mean, if he could get 
that Mr. Clean sponsorship, I’m sure it would just   make his life that much easier. Yeah. No, 100%. 
I hope he goes after a killer who looks like Mr. Clean. Second part of your question. Also, when 
Dexter tells Dos he won’t be caught, did anyone else get full Walter White vibes? I can’t answer. 
I’ve never seen one episode of Breaking Bad, so I   can’t answer that. I was half expecting Dexter 
to look at Dos in the cage and say, I am the one who knocks and slices. I’ll let you answer. 
And slices. Uh, yeah. I mean, it’s definitely got that energy. It’s definitely got that like, 
do you know who you’re talking to kind of like,   yeah, I am in I am the captain kind of vibe. Uh, 
and yeah, I mean, and Breaking Bad is a show that is very much about points of no return and just 
blowing shattering through them. Uh I mean yeah like and and Walter White obviously different kind 
of character uh different kind of criminal but uh but yeah someone who this season especially 
because yeah Dexter has flirted I think with his ego and with his sense of you know his place 
in the world and in this season you know he’s certainly that thing he said you know about being 
more selfish you know and being and and you know sort of when he’s coming down from the high and 
sort of reconnecting with the code and realizing like oh Rita and the kids are like important. They 
keep me human and you know I being there for Deb is important in a different way. And these these 
revelations as of these episodes where he’s like   oh [ __ ] I have people who rely on me and I have 
people who would be utterly shattered and and like irrevocably altered emotionally you know if they 
were to discover me. Uh and you know obviously there’s a lot of that in Breaking Bad 2 in its 
own way. Uh, and so yeah, like one of the most frustrating things to watch about Walter White is 
like how much when he’s feeling himself, he’s his   own worst enemy. And I think that’s well embodied 
here in the season and also in a moment like that where he is facing off against Dos, who’s a 
guy who clearly looks at him a certain way,   which is causing his ego to flare up a bit more 
because he’s in control. Like it’s it’s a really fascinating bit of uh, you know, drama to watch. 
Yeah. I mean, it was fascinating too cuz in season one, at least the way I was interpreting or the 
way he was explaining it was like it was all like   a facade is at first why he was just dating people 
in general and then you know he really grew to to care for Rita and the kids and like and I found it 
so fascinating how like even subconsciously like he had gone to her place and and slept there 
because he’s been so so protective over them   and like you said like they really make him feel 
human and like and I like that he’s gaining this sense of perspectiveness And uh he’s just taking 
accountability for and that that talk to where he expected nothing back in return like he knew the 
mistake when I’m talking about accountability when   he knew the mistakes that he made with Laya and 
how she got to him emotionally and manipulated him and again he he took account for the mistakes 
and he genuinely apologized to her wanting nothing back in return just saying hey I just wanted to 
say it. I’m so sorry for how I made you feel.   That is not okay for what I did but I genuinely 
care about you and I’m so sorry about that. like that actually like again not forgiving but that 
was a very sweet sentiment and I appreciated like   how much he’s growing as a person and that 
communication was really endearing and sweet like and I I appreciated that again still not 
a forgivable thing that he did but also someone   manipulated him at the same point not justified 
in what he did but that was I I again I like that perspectiveness from him to grow as a person and 
to be able to communicate that yeah and I think Rita recognized that as well so that was awesome 
hell Yeah. Do you have anything else? All right, Emma. Emma, last one before we hop into episodes 
11 and 12. Was there I’m so sorry. Was there Was there one more? That’s Oh, that’s H. Oh, okay. 
That’s a different thing. My bad. My bad. Sorry about that. All right. For Dexter, for Andrew and 
John, what do you think about the revelation that Harry uh chose his own departure from this mortal 
coil? Yes. Uh, we’ve heard Dexter talk about his heart disease and that it killed him before, but 
now we know the truth. Do you think seeing what   he created in Dexter really caused that or do you 
think it was something that was building in him? Do you think he should uh tell Deborah about this 
revelation? Let’s start right there. Let’s start there. Then we’ll continue. I mean, it seems like 
that now that you’re asking that question, Emma, it seems like now that might really have been what 
happened. And again, with how Tom was cuz again,   just I’ve said it already a couple times. I’m just 
going to repeat it one last time because of how many curve balls and how much on edge this show 
always keeps us. I never know what’s sometimes the truth. So if that’s really what happened like it’s 
definitely I was not anytime there’s a twist in this show. I I will give the show credit. I love 
that it’s not it’s really hardly ever predictable. Sure. Like it subverts your expectations in the 
best kind of ways. Yeah, like even something as simple as we thought Laya was just going to show 
up in the beach. I’m glad that they didn’t even   go that route for instance, just on something very 
simplistic. That was something I was not expecting also in regards to Harry and like taking his own 
life like that. And that is definitely like that is emotionally resonating and like like look what 
I have even though like I did it for the right reasons and that and I had the right intentions 
and I care so deeply about my son even though you know everything that had been revealed 
earlier on too with in regards to making his   u he was having an affair with Dexter’s mother had 
her as an informant he felt very responsible for him like and now he knows there there’s this itch 
that he has to keep you uh like at bay and this is the only way to do it. And now like now seeing 
what’s right in front of him as he’s chopping up this man and if this is really what happened. It’s 
definitely a fascinating and emo emotionally heavy twist. Mhm. Do I think he should tell Deborah 
about this? I don’t know. Just Deborah is very emotional and I love her for it so much. I just 
don’t I’m not saying Deborah can’t handle it. It’s just she has dealt with a lot in this last year 
after the ice cream truck the ice truck killer with I had to do it one time again after the 15 
drink. Yeah. After the 15,000 times they did it last season after what happened with Biny Brian 
Rudy in the last season. That’s a tough question. I I mean, obviously, we know that Dexter has kept 
hidden who he really is from Deborah, and I got to imagine at some point in the seven seasons, will 
be revealed to Deborah. This is a hard one, John. I just think, yes, eventually he will maybe have 
to tell her. I mean, but she also had a closed off relationship with him, too. But she I think like 
the truth always comes out. She’s going to find   out. Now, I think really really quick, and I’ll 
let you answer. I think like this is the thing. If she finds out that Dexter knew and he didn’t tell 
her, she’s going to be pissed. Yeah, that’s the thing. That’s the thing I’m worried about. But if 
Dexter does tell her, she’s definitely going to be   emot like she’s going to feel it emotionally. Of 
course, it’s her father took his own life, but at least Dexter will have been honest with her. Like, 
she’ll be able to handle it. It’ll take her some   time to handle it, but at least Dexter was honest 
with her about it as opposed to finding out that Dexter kept something hidden, which we know he’s 
keeping something way more hidden than that. But what what are your thoughts? I mean, yeah, I think 
the complication arises in Dexter’s own grappling with the idea and the question of how much he had 
to do with this. Um, I mean, I think he should tell. I think Deborah has a right to know. uh you 
know I think he should tell Deborah because that’s her dad you know and uh the risk therein is that 
yes maybe this was partially in response to what I revealed to him. Um, but I think she absolutely 
deserves to know. It’s mostly, yeah, I guess a dramatic question of how awkward would that be 
and when is the right time and can she I get why you would think, well, can she handle this? But 
I think it’s something different. Uh, you know, cuz it’s got nothing to do with her. There’s 
nothing she could have done about it, you know,   and it’s not something that was in direct reaction 
to anything that she did. So, I feel like, you know, it’s different from everything that happened 
with Rudy because, you know, obviously she entered   into that and it has to do with her own ability to 
sus these things out and to, you know, read clues that you don’t need to know to be looking for all 
that stuff. I I think he should definitely tell   her. I just don’t know exactly when or how that 
happens. And to your previous question, I mean, I think it’s probably a little bit of everything. 
It seems like the point of the flashbacks in this season has been to kind of fill in the, you 
know, gaps and to hip us to the idea that Harry was a complicated guy and the kind of person who 
could recognize what’s in Dexter and then commit to shaping that into some different form that’s 
maybe a little bit more benevolently inclined than not. like, you know, you got to be a little bit 
of an outside of the box mind to entertain that idea at all, I imagine. So, um, and yeah, I mean, 
we’ve learned all that stuff about, you know, his, uh, arrangement with the biological dad, with 
his entanglement with Dexter’s biological mom, him taking Dexter, leaving Brian, uh, all these 
things. You know, Harry seems like a guy, yeah, with like a a great heart and a moral code 
for sure, but also a complicated guy who I I think they touched on, you know, who was 
very much grappling with the boundaries,   the limitations of the law as it is, you know, 
carried out in society. Um, and I have to imagine that in a situation like that, you know, it’s 
like, yeah, I’m torn up that these people get away on technicalities and stuff like that, but 
also my own son has literally brought this home   and is like hacked this guy up and like I’ve know 
I’ve been trying to curb these urges, but also like I’m presented with it to my face now. And 
I can imagine, yeah, very much that it’s kind of all this stuff. It’s the soup of all of it. And 
I liked that the stay away from me man that came out of Do’s mouth sounded very different from the 
stay away from me that Harry says, even though I have a feeling that there’s something similar at 
the core of both. I think they’re both in that   moment like just don’t come any closer to me right 
now. Like I, you know, don’t try and fix it. It’s not going to be fixed and you are, you can’t 
help right now. Um, and in Harry’s situation, he’s still trying to kind of shield the feelings 
such that they are. Yeah. um such a crazy parallel between the two visuals, too. Yeah, I think it’s 
it’s nicely drawn dramatically so that you can wonder and you can draw certain conclusions and 
there are a lot of good arguments for a lot of   different sides of this and I think that’s part 
of what’s nice about the drama is that you get to wonder too. Um but yeah, I don’t know. I don’t 
know if he tells Deborah when I would expect he maybe would just because again like right she 
deserves to know that because you know he’s both their dad ultimately and I think also too yeah 
I agree with you and I think also too if he does tell her which she does deserve to know does that 
cut into their relationship at all? I don’t think it does, but I think like there is Yeah. It’s 
like you can’t tell her the added context. No, no, no, no. I I didn’t mean that. I just mean 
like I think from a uh you know, she like there’s kind of this animosity that Deb feels in regards 
like she’s not mad at Dexter for it. It’s just like it’s a resentment that she knows that her 
father just spent all this time with Dexter and she doesn’t know why. Yeah. So he’s got Yeah. And 
he’s got to stretch the truth so much about it. Like he can’t tell her why. So yeah, it becomes 
this situation of okay, I can kind of tell her, but I can’t. Yeah. So it’s Yeah, it makes it 
very precarious and difficult at the same time for texture. And so I mean, yeah, it’s it they set 
it up nicely and dramatically for to see like what the hell is going to happen. I don’t know 100%. 
Yeah. Also, what do you think about Deborah and   Lundy’s relationship? We’ll go from Oh, and do you 
think it’s going to go anywhere? They both seem pretty serious about it. Do you think Deb might 
be going into another serious relationship this so fast to cope with her last serious relationship 
with the ice truck killer? Or do you think that Lundy might remind Deb of her father in some ways, 
which is why she got so attached because Lundy   gives her that validation she wanted from Harry? 
That’s a very fascinating point you make there, Emma. And I did feel that way before you mentioned 
that. I said there is a lot because there’s so much she didn’t get from her father and this 
is like a validating you know stance on that with this relationship she has with this man that 
was so absent in her relationship with her father   because he was spending so much time with Dexter 
like stopping the urges and training him obviously in the code of Harry and all that and again she 
doesn’t know why but yeah like she is so lonely emotionally physically and especially with what 
happened with Biny in last season and but This doesn’t feel like also too it it really does not 
uh what’s his name? Gabriel. That kind of felt like a rebound to me. Whereas this one feels 
genuine because they really took their time on that. And uh Lundy, you know, when like he uh was 
giving her these motivational and mentorship type of of talks. It’s kind of like talks like her that 
she wanted to hear from her father or someone of that type of like, you know, mentor type of uh uh 
of relationship. And I like how they really took their time building that up and like little talks 
of like, hey, the way you’re feeling right now,   you like use that to your strength and and 
and such. And I know John shipped that that relationship early on which was again very very 
good call. But I think because they slowly uh had a we had a real nice slow burn on that like we 
really got time to get very emotionally invested in that relationship of these two and they have 
just such nice on onscreen chemistry that I never really at any time felt that it really rushed 
into this relationship or I feel like this is   a rebound of any sort. I really And also too when 
you felt the the deep hurt that she felt when he said like there’s kind of an expiration date 
on this when the case ends. Like I mean like   if this was just a rebound for Deb, I don’t think 
she would be bothered or hurt by that. So like to me it doesn’t feel like that. This truly does feel 
like a true serious relationship. And that’s why I also the fact like taking away the relationship I 
actually really like Lundy. like yeah, he’s a very   hardass kind of guy when it comes to his job and 
he takes it very seriously and he’s by the book, but also like he’s a very caring and genuine guy 
too and he does give a [ __ ] about Deb and that   was like it also had a lot of meaning too when he 
said like hey kind of wanted to break this thing off not because I don’t give a [ __ ] about 
you but because I was kind of afraid like I   had ARP on me like kind of an old joke at himself 
which I thought was really funny but also like I I understood it too. I get it. But like, no, this 
actually this relationship has a lot of emotional   weight and meaning. And I don’t feel like it’s 
it’s at all a rebound in any which way. And I think Deb takes it extremely serious. Oh, yeah. I 
mean, I I felt like the way that this relationship sparked was really fun to watch because obviously 
they do the gradual buildup partly, you know, as it exists behind the sort of can we even 
entertain this idea, you know, like there’s clearly some kind of allure between them or some 
kind of just um they they seem to get along, you know, once we get past all the stuff about, 
you know, like take me off your task force and enclosed and he openly gradual and I feel like 
yeah I would agree like the Gabriel relationship charming though it was does seem more like okay 
this is the rebound to get back out there and   then Lundy is the sort of like oh I’ve recognized 
an opportunity that I’m excited by and that I’m attracted to but also that could be good for me 
and so uh yeah I feel like it’s almost sort of a sign of moving past the rebound because it’s like 
yeah Gabriel is sort of perfect on paper in a lot of ways and is a perfectly charming guy but Lundy 
to your other question I think yeah is a suave and interesting in general u you know yeah he’s 
very charming and their little aides about music and sandwiches and his little quirks and stuff 
just like the personal side that we see is uh you know very lovely but yeah I would agree that 
he certainly has some kind of fatherly quality, some kind of you know um in some kind of mentor 
like quality and uh yeah I absolutely would believe that he is sort of providing some of 
the validation that she feels like she must   have missed and uh and it’s an interesting bit of 
psychology obviously because yeah I mean you know not that they look exactly alike or sound exactly 
alike but they also could be more different you   know uh you know him and uh and Harry and uh 
you know James Remar So, uh, yeah, I mean, I think it’s a a really nice development for her. 
Like, it’s in, I guess, you know, in timelinewise, it’s sort of still within that rebound phase, 
but no, like Lundy doesn’t feel like that to   me. And I feel like his his um, you know, view on 
the the timeline of things. Like, I I don’t know where to where to imagine it might go. I mean, 
part of my my TV brain goes, I assume this will disappear once season 2 ends. my unfortunately I 
think you’re right. Yeah. Which, you know, is sad because I hope we’re both wrong. Yeah. It would be 
it would be a fun subversion if we just discover   that like, you know, Yeah. he moves on from Miami 
PD or he just stays on the show. I I would love that, too. I mean, like I could just imagine some 
situation where like, yeah, just because he’s not   in Miami all the time and you know, just because 
the case is concluded, maybe they can still It doesn’t mean they can’t still see each other 
doesn’t mean they can’t give the long distance   thing a try. You know, I’m curious, but I have to 
imagine that this is a show where like your Yeah. major guest stars maybe probably only last for 
a season in any major way. So, I guess the best thing I could hope for is that they, you know, 
keep up, you know, their relationship offcreen or something. I don’t know. But, uh, I mean, we’ll 
have to see. It’s definitely interesting. But,   you know, how Vince would have answered the 
the last part of that question. Do you think Lundy might remind Deb of her father? Oh, well, 
I did I I did hear Deb when they were I did hear Deb when they were banging each other. She did 
call him daddy. Oh golly. Oh golly. I had to We love Vince around here, guys. Just saying. 
CS Lee shout out, baby. But I do like it and I do like the complications of like how do we tell 
should we tell the office? And I’m sitting here going like what are even the rules about inter 
office romance in a police/FBI investigation? Um, and yeah, their intimate scenes together have been 
really lovely when they’re at his apartment. Um, you know, they’re cooking together. Like, yeah, I 
think like and their performances back and forth.   Like I I I wasn’t kidding like as as much as 
there are elements of it that you could argue are problematic. Like I do find the the Deborah 
Lundy relationship very lovely and wholesome in a lot of ways. I agree with you. And you know what 
I found very interesting as well that Leguarta had that look towards Deb when she said, “You’re 
sleeping with London.” It’s like, do you have the   moral high ground right now to to question her her 
for sleeping with someone when you were sleeping with Pascal’s fiance to get back your job? Which I 
I get why you did, but that was so messed up. But yeah. Well, and then it speaks to Lua and where 
she’s at at that point in time. She doesn’t really   make a thing out of it. Like you can tell that 
everyone’s looking is making their comments about Deb, you know, behind her back or whatever. But 
like all the stuff with Luerta past that point, especially as it pertains to like when she goes 
in to ream her out and it doesn’t go her way, it doesn’t go Deb’s way. And Laguerta is basically 
just like I am just concerned for my friend and I’m not going to play any of these other games, 
you know, like I I appreciated that for No. And I   get it. It was genuine surprise when she made the 
comment, but there I I always usually read subtext in each comment. And again, it was just like 
about you don’t have the moral high ground to be making a questioning statement right now. But I I 
understand. But I think that’s I think it’s partly why they didn’t make a bigger deal out of that. I 
think Lua in a previous like earlier in the show, Lua might have made a thing out of that or they 
would have gone further to ribbing Deb. Whereas I feel like Lua for as many transgressions 
as she’s been responsible for. Yeah. that one little surprise line, then we’ll just leave it at 
that. So, we won’t make too big of a deal out of   it. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Fun. Fun. All 
right. Anyway, thank you for all the questions, guys. Uh, this has been an incredible two episodes 
where we’re going to jump right into now episode 11 here. Season 2, episode 11. Here we go. What? 
Jennifer Garner is on this show. Was that Was that a Jennifer Garner? I know Christina Richi and 
what? Elijah Wood. Elijah Wood. We’ve got to throw a Hillary Swank or the Hillary Swank, not Jennifer 
Garner. My B. It is your bee, John. Hey, you’re my bee. All right, guys. We are going to start 
season two 11. Let me do that again. All right, guys. We’re going to start season 2, episode 
11 of Dexter in a three, two, and a one. Go. I love the increasing amount of gusto 
you put into that disguise mother. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. 
Not ready, Andrew. I’m not ready. Left turn ahead. Oh no. Yeah. Throw us 
on your left. On your left, John. Hey, I always thought hardening arteries squeezed the 
life out of my father, but it was me. Oh man, no. Harry gazed into the eyes of his creation and 
saw evil pure and simple. My evil, it killed him. The devil’s eyes. I understood that reference, 
John. A [ __ ] about your father. You want to talk about it? About what? That my life is one 
tragic mistake. We’ve all felt that at one time or another. I know I have. Jeff going to be stuffing 
a human leg into a garbage bag at that point. You   want to make a change, Morgan? Now’s the time. All 
you got to do is let me out of here. It’s over, man. It is over when I say this. Whoa. There’s 
that anger again. That is intense. You got to let that out. I’m flying without a code here. I can 
unleash the beast anytime I want. Morgan, you know that’s not the answer. And you know you don’t want 
to do that. But it would feel [ __ ] great. Yeah,   but you would hate yourself for the rest of your 
life. This is crazy. Is he going to become the new Harry? Uh, that would be wild, actually. Like 
the present day Harry. All the things Harry taught me. Everything. It’s [ __ ] It’s the only 
way I know how to live. God damn. Turn yourself in. Rule number one. Don’t get caught. Don’t get 
caught. No, Morgan, you’re spinning. Let me help you. It’s only a matter of time before you hurt 
someone else. And I’m not talking about me. I’m   talking about your sister or your girlfriend or or 
even those kids. Damn. I would never. No, not on purpose. But you can’t control that [ __ ] that’s 
growing inside of you, Morgan. It’s like cancer.   And in case you haven’t noticed, is spreading. 
Oh my god. End it now. Oh my god, dude. He’s got a point. Take responsibility for who you are, 
man. We’ll go to the station together. I’ll help   you. Oh my god. I want to believe you. Morgan. 
Morgan, don’t answer that. Stay with me, man. Who is it? Morgan. I don’t like thisgan. Think 
it’s Angel about Laya? I don’t know. Morgan, my name is Dr. Hill. I work at Good Samaritan 
Hospital. I’m calling on behalf of Laya Tou. How did you get this number? You were listed as her 
emergency contact. Ooh. I’m 2 hours away. Call somebody else. Jesus. Here’s a legal complication. 
What? What kind of complication? I can’t discuss it over the phone. You really need to be here. 
Jesus. What’s going on? What? This is so Don’t worry. I’ll send the FBI your way soon enough. You 
still going to try? I’m kind of down a path here. Oh, what now? The same hospital or to just 
trauma at the hospital? Yep. Oh, no. Dad’s heart came out. Oh no. Dexter. Mr. Morgan. Yeah. 
I need a second load with him. Okay. I think it was her. I’m sure it was. Why is Angel here? We 
found Rohypnol, the tape drug in Lana’s system. A wound to the back of her head. We may be looking 
at a case of No. No, that didn’t happen. Has no recollection of what did happen. She requested we 
perform. Oh my god. That’s why she slept with him. Oh, this is bonkers. Oh, I don’t like this. That 
is so messed up to Angel. He’s the sweetest. Yeah, could ruin his life and he didn’t do anything. 
Came to see me. You knew the doctors think ang’s a bit fuzzy. This is desperate. Oh, Christ the 
Lord. It won’t work. What are you talking about? I’m just glad you’re here. Missed you so much. 
I hate you so much. But she’s a great actress though. For the right reasons. I hate you. 
Yes. A+ job. Yeah, she’s doing a great job. Don’t do this. I won’t discharge the chemist. Do 
whatever you want. Oh god, that conniving evil look. If you promise to take me back. Can’t you 
just let me go? Because I’m your real soulmate. Oh, this I’m so I’m so scared for Reed and the 
kids now. Inside and the only one close. Yeah. Oh my god. She looks very determined. You know 
that I can never do anything like that. Hey, you don’t even have to say anything. Angel, 
warn me about it. But my goodness. Oh,   my man. I could lose everything over this. Oh, I 
got to choose a person like a real person be like, you a real person. Out of anyone, it would be 
you, my man. Angel represents the best of us. Not really sure what that means, but thanks. Thanks. 
You got a good heart. You’re pure of spirit. See you in the morning. This guy got tangled in 
the middle of this. That sucks. appreciate if you wouldn’t mention this to anyone at the 
station. Oh, he definitely won’t. Of course not. No disclosure. I’ve always gone after criminals. 
Now I have a fate of two cops in my hands. Yes, Doug was right. The cancer is spreading. Damn, 
dude. Wow. We’ve got conscious now, John. We’ve got a set of stakes here. Mission accomplished. 
The weapons I tossed into the ocean were found as planned. One more nail in Do’s coffin. Oh [ __ ] 
This is FBI. Oh, Max. He just Oh my god. I know he I know what show he’s in, even though I’ve 
never seen Breaking Bad. Brought Mike. Frank is in   Bever uh Beverly Hills Cop One. The murder weapons 
before you were recovered yesterday by a beginning scuba diving class. As predicted, fingerprint 
analysis ties them to one James do. This doesn’t prove a goddamn thing. Not now, Maria. Why 
wasn’t I brought in on this? You just were,   Frank. Yep. This footage was taken 4 days ago at 
a mobile station just off Highway 41 southeast of Naples. Ladies and gentlemen, Sergeant James 
Dos. We know what he looks like. We have let our target out of control. Let’s not drop the ball 
again. Owie. Oh, his foot must or his leg must be like really sore by now. At least he got 
his leg day in at least on one foot leg. Oh. [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] He’s a wanted fugitive 
right now, but at least he’s out. Oh my god, dude. We have a warrant for Detective Batista’s 
arrest. Oh my god, Lyla. I turn sexual assault charges against him. That [ __ ] [ __ ] But it’s 
okay. I knew this was coming. Put those away or I’ll up your ass. I love how emotional she is. 
What’s going on here? We’ve been asked to bring Detective Batista upstairs for processing. I am 
sure that Detective Batista will go along with you   peacefully. Laya. Okay, dude. It isn’t my fault. 
I warned Angel. Still, I hate to see him disgraced in front of everyone. Oh, she is the worst. And 
Lua about to lose her former partner, her friend. God dang, so much chaos. Even Lundy is caught in 
Hurricane Dexter’s path of destruction. Maybe this is how evil works, destroying everything 
it touches, including my father. He feels   like he’s the He feels like he’s the root cause of 
everything. My car is stalled on Harper and third. You can come get me. Hang tight. I’ll be right 
there. This conspiracy theory. Was that a natural   thing that happened with her car? I’m the helpful 
handyman. How evil can I possibly be? I’m sparing Rita and Deb by framing jokes, right? Bargaining. 
Hey, no. Oh my god. Jesus. Oh no. Surprise. Yeah. Hey. Hey. Over here. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh no. No. No. I don’t want to go to the cabin. I’m a 
police sergeant. Miami metro homicide. TC party. Oh no. No. Well, this not No. Oh, no. Damn. Is 
Dex going to have to save his ass from escape capture to getting recaptured? The evidence was 
there. Something inside me wasn’t convinced he was   our guy. So, it was a bad call. We might never 
stop it. Stop what? Stop acting like me. Oh, you’re a god. You forget it. Go, Deborah. Take 
the minivan. No, I I can’t. It’s too big of an inconvenience. Dexter can teach me. Back at work, 
I’ll borrow something from the motorpool. Oh,   yeah. That worked well last time. The So, I’ll 
make it up to you. Dinner. I’ll dress up in the Laura Croft costume. I have a better idea. Pack a 
lunch. Bring the kids. Let me take you out on the   ocean tomorrow. The kids have school tomorrow. 
Think of it as a field trip. You don’t know Cody’s teacher. It’s just one day. Just one 
more day. One more day. Is everything okay,   Dexter? Yeah. One day. Okay. After 
everything we’ve been through lately, I just want to be together with you 
guys. Is that selfish? No. Oh, no. It’s true. Sergeant Dos can rejoice. I come 
bearing real food. Surprise, mother. Oh. All right. Oh, boy. Jeez, these guys are 
packing. Yeah, they are. Maybe this is gonna help him change his a little bit of his 
ideology when he if he saves him. Yeah, I told you those emoting looks. So, they’re the 
best. This is so funny. Oh, no. Coen. Coena. Suck my You understand that [ __ ] Hey, I love 
them working together. This is so cool. This is fun. This is Whoa. Dexter using a gun. That’s 
right. I mean, he’s a crack shot. Friends of yours. From what I can tell, they’re friends with 
that drug dealer. They would have killed me once   I had all that poke on the boat. Thanks, Morgan. 
Thanks, Morgan. Oh, that was very that felt nice to hear. Oh, this is awkward. Oh no, dude. Oh no. 
I think we made some alligators very happy. Oh, they threw the guys to the house. Oh god, I guess. 
Yeah. What else do you do with them? Yeah, you told me. Take responsibility for what I am. You 
were right. Harry killed the wrong person. Morgan, you’re not thinking about No, that’s pathetic. 
Oh, golly. But I can’t live in this house of cards anymore. Waiting for it all to fall down. I 
need to do something. You know what do we do? I’m thinking about turning myself in. Oh my. That’s 
a good call. Yeah, that’s a tough call. That’s a good call, man. God, I need some [ __ ] relief. 
What? Yeah, you can’t keep running, man. You’re just going to end up in exactly the same situation 
sooner or later. Prison. Oh boy. Could finally get some sleep. In the long run, it’ll be easier on 
Deb. A Rita. Oh golly. Better than watching me dragged down like an animal. Oh no. Which, let’s 
face it, will happen someday. No. Yeah. We’ll do it together. I’ll go with you. Come on. Let’s 
go. Oh my god. What? What is this going to be? If I do this, I need a day to get my affairs 
in order. That’s fine. Tie me up. Throw me   in the trunk. I brought supplies. Fresh fruit. 
Make sure you mention that when they interview you for the story of my life. God damn it, 
Morgan. You’re not going to leave me in this   cage again. Are you? Anything could happen. 
Come on. What are you doing? I think you’ve seen the worst of that. Dixon. Oh, I really 
conversations, James. I don’t think he’s ever called him by his first name. I lie to everyone 
I know except my victims right before I kill them. It’s hard to establish much of a rapport 
there. Sure. Sorry about the cage. Yeah, Morgan. Goosebumps and the chills. Hey, Deb, it’s 
me. What are you doing tonight? I’m about   to get off work. Why? Why? She It sounded almost 
aggressive how she answered that. I’ve got some papers I need you to sign. Papers? What kind of 
papers? What? Huh? How’s Angel doing? What do you think he’s doing? You know, it’s your fault 
he’s in this mess with you and Alvirra. Ooh, hellfire. Not the best brother, am I? Fix, are 
you smoking something? No. Why do you ask? I’ve always been curious to try. Do you have any 
weed? Okay, now I’m really worried. Wasn’t he on weeds? I think six feet under. No, also that. 
But you have got to fight back, dude. Morgan’s right. You got to man up, get tough. Loves a 
battlefield. Or in your case, restraining order. Angel with me as the evidence seems to indicate. 
Then you should face the consequences. After tomorrow, I won’t be around anymore. So, 
there’s no end game in this for you. You’re   going somewhere. It’s looking more and more 
likely. You could say that. Tell me. I have a right to know. You’re the one who told me about 
accepting the things you can’t change. This is one   of those things. Jeez. Bye, Lyla. God, he looks 
positively giddy. Yay. I’m worried about Batista. This is so [ __ ] There’s no way I’m going to let 
him take the fall for this. What can you do? Well,   special agent Lundy, who can you do? I was 
wondering if you might access those great big FBI files of yours. Oh, Miss Li attorney. Oh, John, 
you called that earlier. Say she has no warrants, no criminal record. Do you think she has a a 
different name? Nothing with the DMV and no social security number. What about uh visas or green 
cards or whatever? Okay. She’s not real. Nothing. No records. Okay. Okay. That’s impossible. 
Everyone has a paper trail. Nope. Not this one. Everyone real? Yeah. She’s a hallucination. 
Sneaky [ __ ] She’s using an alias. That would be my guess. Well, how do I find out Yla’s real name? 
I think you know the answer to that. Go shake her down. Cut off her head. Look for a label. Lol. 
That’s right. There’s probably an easier way. Oh my god, dude. Dude, what do you think she is 
wanted for? I don’t even want to know. She had to use an alias. She’s probably like a serial 
arsonist murderer. Yeah. Last time Yla was in my apartment, she microwaved some popcorn. There’s 
definitely going to be clicks on this. Next time,   make her a cup of tea. A spot of tea. I met with 
a lawyer yesterday, and he helped me prepare a living trust that gives you control of all my 
assets in the event of my death. She’s like,   “Why are we having this conversation?” God, 
go away. This is creepy. The financial planner said a guy my age should have a will. It’s 
just a precaution. We’re all going to die   eventually. Mhm. That’s morbid. True that. 
Okay. Yeah. Stopped by Laya’s this morning. Yeah. And I talked to her. I don’t think she’s 
going to be a problem. Yeah. I don’t know. I’m free tonight. You want to stop by? I’ll pick up 
some beer, throw in a couple of steaks. There’s   something I want to talk to you about. Throwing 
some Canadian bacon eggs. Didn’t he have some stakes with Biny in last season? I could use a 
new TV. Hey. Oh. Oh, is Prince Luerta here? Yeah. Do was looking for a lab to have them analyzed. 
Why? I don’t know why. If he’s our killer, he’d   be keeping them for trophies. He’d have no reason 
to have them analyzed. Well, I’m not sure Leonus is our most reliable witness. No, but it’s worth 
looking into, isn’t it? Mhm. His gut is telling him, “Yes.” Yes, it is. Yes, it is. For starters, 
why don’t you uh brief me on both those missions? Hey, we’re both on the back foot now. I again 
efforts. I don’t know what’s going to happen. Maybe they can pin it on Laya. Who knows? That 
would be awesome, man. That would be sick. I mean, if she’s really a arsonist murderer with when they 
find out. Who knows? Gale Force 3 slice of life. Oh, there sea lions. Okay, so she’s under the 
impression he’s going away forever with them, not to prison. Yeah. Oh, what are you doing? 
Going out to uncharted waters to start a new life on an island. Not if I have anything to 
say about it. Oh no, did you leave the window cracked? Nor. Ignore. Oh no. No. Welcome to the 
GPS 3000 tracker. Previous destinations. Christ the Lord. No. No thank you. No thank you. Hate 
that. Oh boy. Hate that. Rita. I’ve never been a very good boyfriend. I wouldn’t say that. I just 
need you to know that you and the kids are very important to me. Absolutely are. I want you to 
have this. Is that a trust? It’s a pink slip. Oh, I told you everything’s okay. You don’t. Please. 
I want you to have it for the kids. It’ll keep   them safer than broken down convertible. A 
I know I’ve been taking things slow with us, but it’s not because I don’t have 
feelings for you. It’s more like I   have too many feelings and I just want to 
make sure to get it right. Yeah, me too. Oh, this really sweet scene. Turns out her real 
name is Llaya West. Ran her prints for the AFIS, which is tied to IC. Get this. My visa expired 
2 years ago. Bad girl. I can have her deported. Oh my god. No. Not as easy as it sounds. 
Is that Is that the extent? Maybe not back   then. Wow. I thought I lived in a [ __ ] ton. 
I like how it’s starting. I want you to leave Miami tonight. Don’t ever come back. Don’t ever 
contact Angel or Dexter again. Mhm. Why would I listen to you? Cuz I’m a cop and you’re here on 
an expired visa. I know your real name and I’ve contacted immigration officers will be here 
any day now. They’ll arrest you and deport   you and it will not be pretty. This is true. 
Why? Jesus. Whether you leave on your own or immigration halls your sorry ass away, I don’t 
give a [ __ ] But I don’t want to give you one   more day to [ __ ] with the people I care about. 
I want to see the look on your face. I want you gone tonight. You don’t want to do this. It’s 
done tonight. Hate this. Love it, but hate it, but love it. What the hell is going to Previous 
destinations starting route guidance. Left turn ahead. That’s not to do, is it? Where do you 
think it’s Dev? I’m the Bay Harbor Butcher. Whoa. Never mind. Never mind. Oh my god. 
I that okay lol. Okay. On the ground. I’m the Bay Harbor butcher. No. I love this. And the 
music. The butcher. Whoa. This isn’t going to be easy. Oh my god. I brought extra beer. We’re 
getting drunk. Hey, maybe that’s the time to tell her when she’s drunk. Yeah. What’s the 
occasion? I ran Lyla out of town today. No, turns out she’s here illegally. You should have 
seen me, Dex. I was like an old west sheriff. You were You were pretty boss. By the way, John, 
there’s bread sticks. Feeling good. Oh, can I get you a bread? Yes. There’s a reaction we did, guys. 
Inside. We did a happy Gilmore 2 earlier today. The first time since all that ice truck killer 
[ __ ] I feel like I’m back and improved even. Oh. Oh my god. All that stuff was happening with 
Rudy. Rudy, did you ever consider doing something drastic? Are you kidding? All kinds of [ __ ] up 
[ __ ] went through my head. Thank god I had you. Oh, every time I started to spin out of control, 
I had you to grab on to. You let me live here for practically forever. It’s tough though. I’ve done 
almost anything to get out from under the weight   of it all. Sure. How’d you finally do it? Oh boy. 
Oh boy. Oh boy. Just saw through it. You decide who you are, who you want to be, and you hold on 
to that. Write it out. You are who you choose to   be. Now choose, John. Superman. You are absolutely 
right. Is an honest to goodness. What are you going to talk to me about anyway about that? Let’s 
delay it another couple seasons. Nothing. Oh god. Nothing at all. Seriously though, I can’t wait 
till that reveal one day does happen. Harry may have rejected me, but Deb clearly believes in 
me, so why shouldn’t I? I’m not turning myself   in. This isn’t Harry’s life. Sorry, Dos. I made a 
plan to frame Dos, and I’m going to stick with it. Oh my god. I Laya probably just threw a curveball 
in your plan, though. Okay, I’m on the way. What happened? They found Do’s [ __ ] rental car. What? 
They thought Really? His car? Did they find Dos? No, not yet. But the search grid’s closing in. 
Come on, we got to get to station. Actually,   I got to make sure they don’t find doses in 
a cage. I love you. Hey. Hey, I’m in here. I It sound like a Jeep. That’s got to be Laya. 
Hate this. Anybody out there? Anybody out there? Route guidance. Oh, this is this 
is going to be weird. Hate this. Somebody in there. Weird. What are you? 
You have arrived at your destination. What? Oh, what? Dude, don’t go. 
Luckily, we get to watch it right now, though. That we do. Yes. All right. I’m 
nervous to press the button. You You got press the button. Yeah. All right. 
We’re going to get into season 2,   episode 12, guys. Absolutely. Hey, the British 
invasion. Let’s go. Hello. Who’s out there? I need some help. Get me out of 
here. Oh my god. Oh. Oh my god. Kathy Bates left that there. Yeah. 
Are you afraid to face Do? Yes,   of course I’m afraid to face him. And 
I have dishes to do. Uh uh. It’s Doses. You hate the guy. I used to. I can’t even 
afford to think of him as a person anymore. If they find doses locked inside a cage, it will 
seriously undermine my frame job. Yeah. Yeah. And then some. I need to beat them to that cabinet. 
Oh my god. Is that a 2-hour drive? He said, right? Yeah. Waiting out there in the Everglades 
are hordes of county sheriff, search parties, and ravenous reptiles. Corner wearing dark trunks. 
The mighty Dexter. Dark Trunks. I need a miracle. Oh my god. No. God damn. See another face. 
I never thought I would. Jesus. I’m Sergeant James Dos. Miami Metro Homicide. Who put you 
in there? Psycho. A [ __ ] psycho. Grab that key right behind you on the wall. Who is he? 
His name is Dexter Morgan. Jesus. Why would he do that? Put you in there. Because I found out 
that he’s a [ __ ] Bay Harbor butcher. Please   just open this [ __ ] gate. The butcher. That’s 
what I’ve been trying to tell you. Oh my. What’s in there? Exactly what you think it is. It’s 
evidence. Oh, that smell must be awful. Poor thing. I’m all alone. Oh, no. Don’t do it, dude. 
Don’t. I’m okay. Just open the gate. Not you, Dexter. Oh my. Yeah. when he realized hiding 
such an enormous secret. What a burden that’s got to be. Oh no. So shut down. Oh my god. What 
are you accomplish? The contrast from I think I’m getting out of here to what the hell are you? 
My soulmate. Oh my god. Yeah, he’s praying for death now. He’s like let it end. Let it end. 
Dude, Eric King is such a damn good actor. Oh my god, dude. No. Oh, cruel. Although 
he could easily That’s not that. I mean, I don’t know how he’s You’ll 
be an accessory. Oh my god. No. Oh, Nikes. What the are you doing? Holy 
crap. Oh my god. This is murder. Oh, please. Not do jokes. Please, please, 
please, please, please. Oh my god. Oh, please get out. Oh my god. No. You 
got the key, man. You got the key. Oh, Christ. Oh cra. I have I I have 
no idea what to expect from the end of this season anymore. Yeah. Oh, I 
don’t see how any of this can resolve. Yeah, I know what you said. Oh my god. Holy [ __ ] John Woo directed that shot. That’s right. Oh 
my god. To s Please tell me he survived. I mean, he was a combat veteran. I don’t know. Can’t 
be the first explosion he’s been a part of. Nice transition. Hey, Dexter Morgan, Miami Metro 
PD forensics. I’m here to join the search for the Bay Harbor Butcher. Search is on hold right 
now until they sort out the confusion. Take   a right at the fork. Park outside the 
line of fire trucks. Confusion requires fire trucks. I love how he’s confused about the 
confusion. When something beyond reason happens, it turns skeptics into believers. Sure. Believers 
in a higher power. But what kind of power did this? Power of Laya. What happened? They think 
a propane tank exploded. How? Look like a fire chief. Did they find a body? Just bits and pieces 
so far. Oh, the one the body that he uh was it spontaneous combustion? Divine intervention. 
Uh, if you believe that God makes miracles, you have to wonder if Satan has a few up his 
sleeve. Hey. Yes, sir. But when you don’t believe in anything, who do you thank? Thank yla. I 
guess we got a photo. Whoa. Who we got? Oh, we got liftoff separation. Wow. Gaping areas 
of pulpified tissue. Oh my. Extensive fourth degree burns. Fourth degree. Big ass [ __ ] 
explosion. What else can he give us? These   linear lines around his eyes are unburned. 
He was squinting alive when it happened. Oh. Oh boy. Done on record should give us a positive 
ID. God damn. Is it dope? Male African-American. What? Whoa. About the right length torso. Heavily 
muscled. What? I think it’s him. I’ve never seen Mazuka so professional. Oh my god. This is where 
the butcher did his dirty work. That’s a perfect location for a kill room. Doesn’t get any more 
remote than this. Oh boy. This is good news, gentlemen and lady. Right. Keep the search on till 
we get a firm ID on that body in the water. Right. You agree with him? The evidence is compelling. 
Yeah, he still doesn’t agree. Overwhelming, actually. Which means I don’t agree. My gut’s 
telling me it’s not toes. I uh I wouldn’t if I were you. Oh, is it James? They don’t know yet, 
dude. Until we get a positive ID, I’m I can’t believe I actually contemplated turning myself 
in. Oh, this is so much better than a prison cell. We are getting some of that B-roll. Orange juice. 
Let’s go. A fine French roast. Fun. Grab a morning workout. Where are the credits? I know. Working 
out I could have done in prison, but still. I’m free. Finally got a place to use that stuff. Oh 
my god. Fun. This is like very a cathartic moment for him. Yeah. I figured the kids were still 
asleep. I didn’t want to ring the bell. That’s Terara’s job. Ring the bell. Why are you here? 
Well, I figured the kids were still asleep. Oh. So this is what freedom feels like. Unexpected. 
Yeah, I wound up with some unexpected time on my hands. Yes. Like 20 years to life. Jeez. 
So glad they’re taking things slowly. I don’t know if this is a good idea to text 
her. I was just getting used to you from a   distance. I know you’ve been working. Oh, how 
come you’re still in bed? I overslept. Will you make us pancakes, please? What’s 
under there? Christ. Oh no. Oh no. A hi Dexter. A cute scene. Are you guys back 
together? Uh, right now we are. Oh, dude. Again, I’m just so worried psychologically what’s 
going to happen to Reed and the kids if she does   something to them. Hate this. Hate this because 
the recap kind of just showed something messed up is coming. Oh my god. Wow, Dexter, you have never 
looked so artsy. That is quite a piece. Ever heard of Lake Hippo Wash? I’ve not heard. Have you? Nor 
can’t say that I have. Wonderful ice fishing. Very romantic. Fine. We have a positive idea. Oh. Oh, 
there may be an additional date which puts him out of the country. The burn victim is Sergeant 
Dos. Wow. Dental records confirmed it. Oh, wow. I can’t believe we went there. Somehow 
I didn’t think he was going to die. I didn’t either. And the other body, Joseé Garza, a murder 
fugitive living. They went this route. Wow. The body was dismembered. Oh my god. Other victims. 
Wow. Deputy Director Adams is close. I see. Oh, poor thing. All the evidence points to James 
Dos as the Bay Harbor Butcher conclusively. Oh no. Oh no. Oh, that’s so sad. Thought I heard 
somebody say the explosion was a propane accident. Right. Stokes accidentally turned on the propane 
valve and then he accidentally turned the stove   on. Stove was on. It was in the official 
fire investigators report this morning. Oh, I think he’s starting to put two and two together. 
I guess it could be that Dos didn’t realize fire   and gas are a bad combo. Oh yeah, he’s putting 
it together. A badass like dogs would rather burn than get burned. It’s a good line for my 
movie. Oh my god. Of course, of course you have a screenplay. Oh no. Oh no. No. No. No. No. No. 
No. She left a calling card somewhere. The GPS. The GPS maybe. Yeah. As bad. Say that as you were 
saying it. I just checked. I didn’t see any GPS device in the minivan Dexter. Did you check the 
glove box? It’s gray rectangular. It’s about the size of a paperback book. If someone stole my GPS, 
it would have led them straight to do who I know with a nasty habit of stealing. Put it together. 
Laya, my miracle worker. Oh, is this gives me a Jaws Jaws vibe? Oh my god. Good visual reference 
to Jaws. Literally into the belly of the beast. Keep pulling there. Right through the jaws. 
Right through the teeth. Glad you called. Was afraid maybe you’d left town. Seems I found a good 
reason to stay. I want new victim. You mean you? That would be fascinating. That’s why 
you asked to meet at the aquarium public   place. Thought I was going to slip my needle into your neck. Is that how you do it? That’s 
how it starts. It’s one of the ways this I know. I’m with you. Beautiful place 
to do this. You’re afraid of me now, aren’t you? I think just the opposite. 
Been afraid of you, Dexter. She’s obsessed. Why? The first time I saw you, I could see how 
hopelessly consumed you were by your need. You lied to me. pet. All that time as my sponsor, 
you said all you wanted was to help me control my addiction. Way to control that. That’s 
not what you really wanted, was it? What do you think I wanted? To know what it’s like to feel 
something that deeply. Oh, I love how he’s finally able to deconstruct her own recovery groups. It’s 
like fight club. You’re emotionally colorblind. You use the right words. You panime the right 
behavior. The feelings never come to pass. You’re a sociopath. Enough. They’re primitive responses. 
Immediate needs. You know all the words, but you can’t hear the music. Oh, what a bar. I’m just 
like you. Now I see under your mask. Yeah. Oh, the cra. No. Hey. Oh. Hate that. Like teenagers. 
I was down to my last hope. So was I. When he told me who you are, I thought that was a secret worth 
protecting. Please don’t have Rita and the kids show up by accident. Of all the places. Yeah. 
I mean, but that could happen. Brilliant. More like my father than I ever imagined. I’ve 
created a monster of my own. H. Oh no. Oh, I don’t I don’t like this. I don’t know what 
to make of this. I’m in now and I’m not going anywhere. No. Go. Even with Bill’s gone, I’m 
starting to think it’s too dangerous for me here. I need to move on. Disappear. I’ve already 
said my goodbyes. Let me come with you. No. Go home and pack. I’ll call you tomorrow. Yeah. 
You ain’t going nowhere. I can’t wait. Oh, you’re going away with me. All right. Yes. 
In a garbage bag. Last loose. Oh my god, the expression changed. I dropped by her house 
last night and told her to haul her slag ass   out of town before she’s deported. Swag ass did 
that for me. Of course. A But you and for Dex, you two window lickers needed somebody to snap you 
out of town. Window lickers. Oh, Angel. It’s good to know somebody’s pulling for you when you Yeah, 
man. You attracted that, my man. Excuse me. Uh, donations can be made directly to me. Donations 
for Sergeant Delta’s memorial service. Oh, man. No. You got to be kidding. I feel so terrible 
for this guy for fellow officer. Oh my god, dude. That’s so sad. Actually, I just wanted 
to offer my support, sympathy, or whatever the [ __ ] if you want to talk. A Thank you, 
Morgan. I can manage. I’m not so sure. I mean, you’re collecting money to honor a killer. No, 
I’m not honoring the butcher. I’m honoring James jokes. Yeah, man. Oh, it’s strange to have a 
creation out there. A deeply mutated version of yourself running loose and screwing everything 
up. I wonder if this is how parents must be. Jeez. Is it Deb or it’s got to be Deb, right? I I 
don’t know. Oh no. Oh no. Deb. Oh no, Deb. What are you doing here? I left town. Yeah, me 
too. And if she was still here, you were going to what? Wrestle her out? Jesus. But we’re 
here. Oh, no. Come to say goodbye. Actually, we came to see that you cleared out. But now that 
we see you’re on your way, we’re good to go. What? Think that’s my bag. I must have left it last 
time I was here. No, I’m pretty sure it’s mine.   [ __ ] Damn it. Hate this. Hate this. Hate 
this. Well, maybe he wanted to make some steak on the road. Yeah. Uh, she realized she was 
targeted for termination or shermination. Yes. No. Yeah, she she just put two and two together. 
When do we leave? Not we. Me. Deborah. I just got a call from DC. A pattern of bodies was identified 
in Oregon. My flight leaves tonight. You got to be [ __ ] kidding me. I wish I were. Weekend 
visits and redeye flights and frequent flyer plans. Let me get my calendar. No, no, no. Do 
you honestly want to go down this path? You’re right. I don’t. Long-distance relationships 
never work out. Not even in the movies. A It’s just a job. It’s more than that to you. Okay. 
I love my job, but not as much as I love. Oh, Deborah, being with you. Take the afternoon 
and think about this. You do me a favor and buy me a goddamn ticket on your flight. I’m going 
home to pack and I’ll see you at the airport. Oh, okay. Oh, boy. Yeah. Real mature. Wow. Wild 
boy. I received a phone call from a woman says she’s a friend of yours. Who? She wouldn’t 
give her name. British accent. It claims to have vital information on the Bay Harbor butcher. 
Any idea who she might be? This is the same woman   who tried to railroad a Batista. You might want to 
avoid her. Not a chance. Now, this case is closing and I can’t afford to leave any loose ends. 
Christ the Lord. If Laya plans to turn me in, why would she drop my name to the captain and 
give me a chance to intercept her? It doesn’t   make sense. Unless she wants me here so she can 
hurt me some other way. Yeah, where are the kids? I can’t remember. Oh my god. Call Dev. She’ll 
have the entire force looking for them. You see, if any of the neighbors saw anything, I’ll drive 
around the area. I promise we’ll find them. Dude,   this is so messed up. The Cody and Aster are 
missing. Did you call the police? The Dexter said to call you. You just sit by the phone. I’ll take 
it from here. All right. God damn it. Oh, poor Tab. Hey guys, you having fun? Super fun. Lyla is 
so nice. Where is Lyla? I’m over here hiding in the flames. Could have had it all decked up. Could 
have had it all. Oh my god, dude. Oh my god. Wow. Oh my god. You first. You’re 
going to help your brother. Oh my god. Run. Find help. 
Come on, Dexter. I can’t fit. This is terrifying. Oh my goodness gracious me. 
Wa. What do you remember from before? You know, before we took you in. Nothing. Good. 
Because what happened was too strong. Sonic got into you too early and it’s 
going to stay there. It’s going to   make you want to kill. Oh my. And you 
won’t be able to stop. Damn. That’s a poor tent. So I’m going to be like 
this forever. Yes. It’s who you are. Is that maybe a way to escape there? He’s 
looking like the Green Goblin. Hey. Yeah, with the fire, too. That’s You’re out of 
your mind, Gabby. Oh, nicely done. Damn. Speed ramping. Nice. Oh, no. Actually, I was 
wrong. Flight 180. Yes. Flight 180. Of course, it’s over now. They’re safe. You’re safe. That’s 
all that matters. Damn. You were taking this well. You’re a perimeter and have the fire chief 
come see me as soon as he gets here. Okay. Oh,   poor Deb. How’d you know the kids were here? 
One of the neighbors saw them walking with a strange woman. It wasn’t much of a leap. It’s 
pretty impressive. It seems it wasn’t too long ago I was taking care of you. H I’ve never 
been one to put much weight into the idea of a higher power. But if I didn’t know 
better, I’d have to believe that some   force out there wants me to keep doing what I’m 
doing. It’s that Jesus drawing from season one. Boo. Whoa. Surprise, [ __ ] I’m coming f with my 
legs and my body. I gave you a concentrated dose. Final epidural instead of the tranquilizer. 
I’ve got a plane to catch. Damn. Did you try   to kill the children for me? Don’t do this. 
You taught me to accept what I am. Oh my god. And to trust in the one thing I know without 
my clarity. God, dude. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh boy. Wow. That is quite a 
striking image. Loose ends tied. just right in the body bag. Not long ago, I had 
a dream that people could see me for what I am. And for a brief instant in time, the world 
actually saw my bodies of work. So sad about cheered. A. But as it turns out, nobody mourns 
the wicked. I hope Deb is here with Luora. No, she’s not. Oh, I feel bad for you that from 
the start. That’s why he gave me a code. I’m glad Daxter came. It cost him his life, but it 
kept me alive through incredible trials. The code is mine now and mine alone. So too are the 
relationships I cultivate. Wow. They’re not just disguises anymore. I need them. Even if they make 
me vulnerable. Wow. My father might not approve, but I’m no longer his disciple. I’m a master 
now. An idea transcended into life. Jesus. And so this is my new path which is a 
lot like the old one only mine. Yeah, Dexter’s code. Stay on that path. I need starting 
a new one. Code of Dexter. Am I evil? Am I good? I’m done asking those questions. I don’t have 
the answers. A justified genius. Does anyone frame? Wow. Oh my god. Wow. Donald, we did it. We 
did it. Holy crap. That was That was wild. What an What an intense season. Uh anyways guys, that 
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as we always do in our reviews, we let you guys kick it off by asking us questions. So, we’ve 
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Yes, we do. So, all right. We’re going to try and, you know, spend a substantial amount of time on 
each one, but since there are so many and this   can’t, you know, this is probably going to be a 
long discussion anyway. So, uh, yeah, bear with us. And the video is going to be longer than all 
four reviews or reactions combined. Yeah. Well, maybe. You never know. We’ll see. All right. Uh, 
let’s see. Rejects says Nick C. Thank you, Nick, for chiming in as I rearrange the desk here for 
maximum visibility. Nick wants to know or has this to say. Rejects, thank you for reacting to Dexter. 
Thank you for watching. This has been an absolute uh blast, a joy. It’s been inspiring. It’s been 
twisted. All that good stuff. Uh seriously, one of my favorite shows. Uh continues, Nick. My 
question is how you guys felt about Dexter killing another person who accepts him and his dark 
passenger. Is it because he sees them as only uh only only as killers and can’t get past his 
code? Or is it that he just can’t accept anyone who sees his dark past? Interesting. I mean, 
yeah, obviously we we remember what happened with Biny and how much that hurt him to do in the 
previous season cuz like uh Brian, his brother, saw him for who he really is and he could be 
himself around him. So, we know how much and also   he finally got his brother back, some of them from 
his his past, right? So, we know how much that really hurt him. And I I think though in regards 
to Laya, like you you you ask a very fascinating question. I don’t disagree with it, but I think 
like I think with Laya, like her fate was like he gave her ample amount of opportunities to walk 
away. He gave her stern warnings. I think once she kidnapped the children, Rita’s kids, cuz those 
kids mean a great deal to him. They humanize him a great amount. And so once she kidnapped the kids 
and put him in the I think it was her her place, right? And she lit the place on fire and left all 
three of them for dead. I think her fate was kind of sealed at that point. So there is no like, 
hey, does she accept him as or does he accept uh like not accept Dark Passenger? Throw all that 
out the door. She She’s a goner at that point. I I did think for a moment like, wow, is this going to 
be a a character that’s looming off like into next season? I thought that was a possibility that they 
were going to do which would have been definitely   fascinating but I understand the resolve to just 
nope he’s going to follow her into the depths of wherever she goes and obviously it was Paris on 
flight 180 of course that’s right but yeah no I mean final destination yeah I mean code or no code 
like once once the kids’ lives were at stake and she did that and to him of course like she was a 
goner yeah I would say that I don’t think that It would I don’t think it has to do as much with the 
fact that it’s somebody who could you know see his true nature the dark passenger what have you. I 
think it’s yeah the like the real question mark of this is is the prospect of dos is his whole 
like you know debate over what to do about you know obviously the code frequently kind of 
derails that plan of like I can’t actually hurt this guy because you know he’s not he 
doesn’t fit the criteria doesn’t fit the bill.   Uh Laya. Yeah. It’s like I think you’re right. He 
gave her ample opportunity to uh to turn back to, you know, just let it go and and move on. And 
she didn’t do that. And uh and it’s clear that while she does, you know, see and have sympathy 
for, you know, the dark passenger within him, she also has her own. And and hers is wild and 
chaotic and tenacious in its own way. And yeah, at a certain point she does so many awful things 
that it’s like, well, you kind of got to go, you know, it’s like after what she does 
to Angel, after what she does to the kids,   after what she does to, you know, the people she’s 
burnt up in fires that we know about and I mean, do in context of her. Yeah. What she did to 
Do Oh, well, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, she’s responsible for Sorry. There’s so much in 
this. Uh, yeah. No, no, no. aftermath of course. I apologize. I didn’t mean to cut you. I was just 
help I was just adding a little to you. I was just   saying granted like she did it for a cause. Like 
it was to help Dexter, you know, in order to be free. Granted, she did that, but obviously like 
Do is a character we love. But sorry, continue.   No. Yeah. It’s like I don’t think that her um uh 
what was I going to say? It’s like her interest in Dexter feels very selfish and so yeah, it’s like 
anything that could be sort of interpreted as like no no like it’s because I see you and because I 
want to help you. I feel like a lot of that you   could kind of uh, you know, rebuke with the simple 
fact that like she’s constantly manipulating him and and whenever he pulls away, she does these 
outrageous things to pull him back in and seems to really want to wrap him around her finger and 
have her be the center of his world. And so yeah, it’s like I think it’s just unfortunate that she 
is the way she is because yeah, it’s like if she   was a, you know, she wasn’t prone to arson and 
murder to some extent and various other, you know, forms of miscreants. Uh, if that’s a word, uh, you 
know, yeah, I think there could be a conversation about, you know, I feel like she would be alive 
and and able to just, you know, kind of be one of   his outlets for, you know, figuring all this stuff 
out. But uh I don’t think it’s so much about him being bound by the co I don’t I don’t think it’s 
so much about him uh you know being spooked that people see the dark passenger. I think it’s more 
that yeah she’s gone way too far. All these you know Brian her they’ve gone way too far. They fit 
the mold. Yeah. you know, you’ve got a person like who certainly he considers killing in various ways 
and certainly, you know, sets up and uses, but even that he’s not like responsible for because he 
keeps coming back to the whole like he doesn’t fit   the code thing. Um, so yeah, I think it’s and Dos 
obviously sees him is I guess what I’m trying to get at with that is that Dos sees him, sees the 
dark passenger, has always known something else lurks within Dexter. So uh you know his grappling 
with what to do about doses I think is sort of proof that it’s more about the code than it is for 
sure being seen. Yeah totally. And just one other observation the three people he’s been I wouldn’t 
say close to dos but just he’s had a history with he knows very well but he was close with Lyla. He 
was of course you know was his biological brother with By. three people who know him the most like 
know what he really is. All three of them like you know had very dark fates uh happened upon them. 
So it’s going to be fascinating to see in the next because there’s eight eight seasons, right? 
Is that what there is? I don’t know. However   many season however many seasons there are. Yeah. 
However many seasons there are. It’s going to be fascinating because obviously we don’t know what 
happens you and I because we have not watched the   show. It’s going to be fascinating whether it’s 
Rita, Deb, or Laguarta, whoever learns the truth about Dexter. Are they going to actually survive? 
And then like how do they or Angel because we know   how much Angel adores Dexter, that’s his best 
friend. It’s going to be fascinating if these characters actually get to survive like how do 
they react to this situation? Do you just move on and like I know Dexter. Well, no, I really don’t. 
Oh, wow. This guy’s a vigilante. Even though it’s kind of like, you know, he’s like an anti-hero, 
but it’s like it’s going to be fascinating to see   like if when they actually keep a character alive 
that knows the real Dexter. I’m very fascinated to see how that works when you you think you know 
someone but then you don’t. How do you react to that? So, I’m I’m curious to see how that works. 
Yeah. It’s like it’s sad that he has to do this to somebody who sees and accepts him. Um, but 
yeah, I don’t think it’s so much about because, you know, like Harry saw and accepted him to a 
degree. I mean, Harry sculpted him and at least accepted him to enough of a degree that that, you 
know, he could mentor him. So, I mean, you know, obviously there’s some degree of acceptance there. 
Agreed. Stop chopping up that body in the thing at least, right? Yeah. Or at least in that moment, 
just stay away from me and we don’t, you know,   know more context because I’m sure there might be 
a twist on that. Who knows? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s, you know, though there are lots of nuanced 
discussions you could have about uh the context and and you know where the actual line is in terms 
of yeah seeing and accepting, right? But uh but yeah, I like you know bring bring this question 
back I think where we could revisit this question if it some point there is a character who like 
clearly knows clearly sees clearly understands and accepts and isn’t you know breaking the code 
you know then my curiosity will be peaked again because I’ll be like that’s is there some kind 
of that’s a great point if it does break the code   and someone does see him for who he is that would 
be very fascinating to see totally agree with you like what do you do in that situation. Absolutely. 
Yeah. And what are they going to do about that,   you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Does it 
mean that they can see him? But thank you for your Thank you, Nick. That’s an interesting 
thing to entertain. Absolutely. All right, Lindsay Dede. Dude, either one, let us know. 
Thank you for chiming in. Thank you, John and Andrew. I hope you’ve been enjoying I hope you’ve 
been loving, forgive me, season two. So far,   we have both seasons confirmed. Did you expect for 
the show to deal with Dexter almost being caught so early or that they would get rid of a character 
as prominent as do in season 2? Have fun in season 3. Lindsay, thank you Lindsay for the question for 
being a royal reject. We appreciate it. I think you know my answer on toes. I was shipping that 
relationship so hard with them and Deb. And just in in regards to jokes to jokes to jokes, I think 
this show did such a good I’ll answer in half a   second here, but I just want to say that they did 
such a good job. I know we’ve mentioned this a couple times. Like in the first episode, like I 
feel like we’re going to hate this character and   then within an episode or two I’m like, “Oh, I’m 
loving this cat and mouse like interaction. Like I I I know you’re not what you seem.” And it’s 
just he he was a car a character that had so many layers about him. the more you got into his 
backstory and the more they developed him.   He’s such a fascinating character. And Eric King, 
is that his name, right? Yes. Yes, I believe so. He just brings so much gravitas, so much presence, 
and he’s also extremely damn charming as well. I just the way he emotes is I I just there’s so much 
about him I adore as an actor and as a character. And to say like I’m saddened by his uh his 
apparent exit from the show as a character, as an actor, is like undercutting how I really 
feel. Like I’m really devastated. I We’ll have to see what happens as we go along cuz I know the 
first four seasons are so damn adored by the, you know, a great deal of people. So I’m curious where 
we go with the storyline here. But I’m extremely devastated. Not because of my my stupid prediction 
with him and Debb being shipped. Whatever. I just love this character so much. So I was definitely 
shocked. Although John brought up the point a couple times which I agreed with him. We have 
passed a lot of points of no returns and Dos is really a nononsense type of guy. So if you don’t 
kill him in that situation which again really broke my heart into 50 billion different pieces 
to do. I don’t know what you do there because he’s not going to let he’s not going to let go. He’s 
not gonna allow Dexter to just walk like he’s a   man who believes in the law and is going to follow 
that very like he’s a he’s got a code of doses if you will and he’s just not gonna let he’s not 
going to let Dexter just walk around even if again we might agree with what Dexter is he’s getting 
rid of the filth of the world and he’s probably   saving innocent lives in the future as a result 
of doing this you know what I mean and he’s doing what the cops can’t do as but as of saying that 
to is just not going to allow that to to be like He will not let Dexter walk around free. So if 
you don’t go that route, I don’t know what would happen to Dexter. So I understand why they had to 
make that unfortunate choice. Yeah. Like it it it pushes the story. It pushes the story forward. So 
what? Yeah, it does. It it speaks to that again willingness not to pull punches to me. I mean like 
I I am fascinated by the choice because again I don’t know how much of a you know deal they had at 
the time as you know I feel like we live in a time now where more things get picked up for multiple 
seasons whereas you know I remember a time where it seemed like you know you would kind of have to 
wait till partway through your show to know if you   were going to get picked up again or not even if 
you’re on cable. Um, so part of me wonders, yeah, if they were just like, damn, we got a season two. 
Let’s, you know, throw everything at this again,   not pull any punches. Uh, I am surprised and I do 
see how you could have made this again like season 7’s stakes or some other later, you know, period 
stakes. Um, because, you know, it’s certainly such a wallup. But as it stands, I mean, I think 
it’s really bold to do that. I think it was,   you know, obviously a great driver of tension 
and a great means of dissecting and further, you know, observing the character as he twists and 
wriggles with Yeah. being seen, being accepted in certain ways, being encouraged to embrace himself 
in a kind of opposite way than than the manner in which Harry taught him to do so. Um, yeah. I 
feel like as show is called Dexter, you know, like obviously it’s an ensemble, but it’s about 
uh, you know, largely concerned with this guy, his frame of mind, the gray area of all of that 
and the sort of fun in watching him do his thing, but also in debating the gray morality of all of 
it, the, you know, dark morality or maybe almost not morality of all of it and his duality as 
well. The immorality of it certainly. Um yeah, his duality is generally I I think yeah, it was a 
really rich vein to tap and it would have been a   good idea kind of at any point. Um and yeah, the 
fact that it happened so soon is sort of like oh damn, wow. And and you know to that end I feel 
like you know the departure of the dispatching of doses makes a lot of sense. And I mean, in 
that moment, I was sitting there with my lower TV brain on going like, “Well, we just we we maybe 
they could pull some trickery, you know, like we saw him in the explosion, you know, lifted off his 
feet and all that stuff. We saw him in the fire,   but then but then we cut away and we don’t see 
him again until they find the fragment of the body with the teeth.” So then your brain starts 
worrying and you’re like, “Well, maybe cuz he’s   so specially trained.” Uh, you know, like he 
got banged up but he didn’t die and then he like pulled his teeth out and put them in a different 
body and threw it in the river and and you know,   like it doesn’t make you get your convoluted sort 
of like wishful thinking brain going. But yeah, like I I don’t know like you know I don’t know 
much about the rest of the show and I had kind of thought that Eric King was on it for more than 
this and I’m staying away from really any updates like you know I can about the resurrection show 
so I don’t know anything about that but I am   really surprised you know and I’m certainly bummed 
out because I loved as a character. I mean it is again one of those things where you’re between 
a rock and a hard place. It’s an unstoppable   force meets an immovable object and uh you know 
yeah do I really enjoyed him across the show. I really enjoyed the journey the up and down of like 
yeah meeting him being like I feel like yeah we’re   not supposed to like this guy and then a couple 
episodes later being like damn this guy’s really a fun to watch and b underneath the surface is 
a character that I actually care about and want you know good things for. And so, yeah, in those 
later moments, especially when like it’s all out on the table, like that stuff really took me by 
surprise, uh, cuz they have done a couple dream fake outs or at least, you know, symbolic dream 
sequences. And so, at first, you know, and when he   first shows up at the cabin, I was sort of like, 
ah, maybe this is a dream. And then, you know, pretty soon it becomes clear, I was almost in 
disbelief at the end of that particular episode   with that reveal that, you know, there he is and 
he’s ready for him. and they have the standoff and uh yeah like it just makes a lot of sense like 
like you know if Do is as smart as they’ve   established him to be then this showdown had to 
happen and I really enjoyed the characterization of their back and forth in the shack because you 
know obviously there’s especially Dos goes through like a whole cycle of emotions where at first you 
know obviously there’s the rage and anger and the sort of like I was freaking right about you. 
Um, but then it gives way to other things to, you know, I don’t know if he’s ever 100% 
being authentic trying to connect with him, but his like deescalation technique uh was really 
fun to watch because it was a brief moment where like he and Dexter are kind of just talking 
like on some kind of level with each other. there’s not necessarily like the animosity upfront 
or the attitude upfront like they’re actually honestly talking as people and you know that whole 
thing about how similar they are I thought was a really lovely kind of touch um and yeah just the 
whole debate of them was great and I could have kept watching it forever and so you know I think 
there is that it obviously speaks to the tenant that you should leave them wanting more uh I’m I 
am sad though like this is a you know a character that I am like actually in this moment and 
I imagine in the coming days we’ll be like   thinking back on and be like damn man sad I 
don’t get to see him in season 3. Uh so you know I’m team Do’s flashbacks all the way. I 
feel like if we could jigsaw Do into this just via flashbacks every episode. Oh that’s that’s a 
good point. You could always do flashback. That’s   a good way to bring I for sure bring him back. I 
think too, really quickly, I think it was really like watching him like being imprisoned in the 
cabin. Like that was some of my favorite acting from Eric King because it was he was really out 
of his element. He was being framed for something   he didn’t do. he knew he had truly met his match 
against Dexter and like but to watch like Eric King’s vulnerability as the character of Do like 
it was just it was really like a it was really like it was scary and and it was I thought he just 
did a a very uh nuanced job at like conveying that as a character because like usually he’s totally 
in control of the situation. Yeah. So to see him like in such a precarious situation as as do Yeah. 
Yeah. It was so out of his element and I was just like I’m like dude this guy is so versatile as an 
actor. I’m like I like I really like appreciate him so much. I’m going to again just like you team 
dos. I’m really going to miss him so much. And the   other part of the question was did I think like 
Dexter was like this early on in in the season’s going to get this close to getting caught? I I 
don’t know. Like I wasn’t in the back of my mind.   And I know there are more seasons. So like at the 
end of the day, I knew he wasn’t probably going to get caught because there’s more seasons, but I 
will say the show did a good job of in the moment,   not making me think about the other seasons. Like 
I was in the moment. So that like I will say that and obviously like you know the show comes out 
at the time. I think John made a great point.   They don’t know how many more seasons are going 
to come out. So like they’ve at at right at this moment we’ve got to put all things on deck that we 
want to tell. And sorry to to be a a repeat person on my favorite show, but like I remember with 
season five of Smallville, they did like they   put everything out on the line because they didn’t 
know if they were going to continue and that’s one of the best seasons of Smallville and there’s 
so much great stuff in there because they truly   didn’t know if that was going to be it or not and 
you can see in a lot of different storylines and elements that are in that season. So I think you 
make a very interesting point with that. So, no, I definitely didn’t see that he was possibly going 
to be caught, but I like like in the moment. It’s   like whenever you watch a lot of movies when 
you know like, all right, there’s probably the the hero is going to triumph and win here in the 
end, but like is the movie going to be able to not make my brain think about that and and build that 
the stakes and suspense in the moment? And even with that crossing my mind at certain points, 
uh, it got me to that place where I was like, I have no idea how this is going to work out. And 
and then my brain goes to the next step and says, okay, so maybe season three, uh, he’s in prison 
or something, but they like need his expertise or whatever, like, you know, then I start bargaining. 
I think, you know, knowing there are more   seasons causes your brain, I think, to the first 
conclusion you draw is that like the status quo will be maintained all that time or or, you know, 
just like generally minus a character departure here or there, like the status quo of being Dexter 
will sort of maintain over time and and it threw me out of that assumption which was really fun. 
And obviously, you know, we’ve gotten to a point   now where most loose ends are now closed. Yeah. 
And you could end the show here if you wanted to. You really could. I’m glad they’re not going to, 
but yeah, it’s weird. Like, you could have ended   season one there and now seasons one and two 
together. I feel like you could end the show here. Uh I’m super glad they’re not obviously. 
And I’ve heard a lot of good stuff at least about   the coming two seasons and, you know, some mixed 
things about season five and then beyond that. But uh I still want to see everything regardless. 
I just want to see what happens. I love watching everybody. I like being in the world. So yeah, 
like quality declines are always a bummer, but at the same time, like I’m pleased that we’ll 
have plenty of this to look forward to. And again, I’m I’m very curious like how everyone’s going to 
react to the ramifications and the consequences of   what just transpired depending on like time gap in 
season 3. Laguarta, I’m very fascinated on because she knows he was innocent. And then comes to Deb. 
She had the man that she really wanted to spend it seems like the rest of her life with, even 
though it’s a premature statement to make, but she   was really dead. A substantial part of life with 
Yeah, she was she was dead set on being with this guy. Angel just had a crazy thing just happen to 
him from Laya, which he accused him of. Granted, he is now a free man. And then Dexter had, you 
know, an identity crisis and then a whole list of events. Uh, and then obviously, you know, the loss 
of Dos, although like he wasn’t close with him,   but still this whole transpire of events that that 
happened. How about the kids? I’m curious how they like they got I I they’re so young, but like you 
got kidnapped and you like a place it there’s so many different avenues. Grown up real fast. Yeah. 
But there are so many different avenues like   psychologically the season 3 can go to and I’m 
I’m really anxious to see like what happens. Yeah, absolutely. Appreciate your uh your thoughts and 
inquiry. Thank you. Alrighty, we got KJ Gould up next. KJ, thank you. Thank you so much. With 
seasons with two seasons of Dexter Dunn, what do you expect in season 3? And do you think he’ll be 
able to keep Harry’s code? Great question. Again, just kind of like what I was just mentioning, the 
biggest thing is I I think this show just does such a great job. Yeah, the story line is usually 
very compelling and fascinating and you always   like wonder like what’s going to happen next, like 
all the curveballs and the twists, but like for me it’s the characters, man. It’s the characters. And 
I I I’m just so curious like where we go off next with each character again with the children, like 
what they just witnessed, what’s going to happen between Rita and Dexter and their relationship. 
You know what I mean? Because they just went   through quite a bit as well. And again, I I really 
like I I really felt like too I I didn’t haven’t mentioned as well, and I I’ll continue on the path 
before I lose my train of thought. I really felt   like Julie Julie Benz. Yeah. She really gave her 
most riveting and emotionally resonant performance and it was either episode 11 or 12 uh that we 
just watched. Like again the transformation of her character from you know the person who was 
kind of just pushed around and didn’t really have a spine to the presence that she currently 
is now. It’s really been astounding to watch and see like what she has become and she’s had to 
become this, you know, in order. Yeah. Her growth has been just it’s been it’s been intense and I 
don’t know if fun’s the right word, but just like but like just fun her performance rather. She’s 
just been incredible to watch. Rich performance is really incredible. It’s rewarding in a way 
because yeah, you’re it’s it just feels like a   different person, but like it’s credit to Julie 
Ben. She’s incredible. But the relationship feel uh too. It just feels totally different from when 
they started to where they are now. And she’s just   not the pushover she used to be. So it’s just 
it’s incredible to watch. Like I love watching badass females and she really does. And I know 
Deb is one as well, but like she really feels like   she’s truly growing into one or has become one 
rather and she’s really arrived. Yeah. So like I I really I mean obviously she had moments like we 
saw with like setting the dog up from the neighbor   in the first season and other moments like that 
and standing up to Paul, right? I believe his name was. She’s had great moments, but like I 
really feel like like it’s like she’s become a badass character in her own right and I I really 
love her. But I’m I’m fascinated to see where   we go with uh in that relationship and there’s 
just so many so many different components that uh just really fascinate me. Even Vince, I I love 
Vince, too. Like I’m I’m curious. Yes. I would love Vince on the internet all all episode long. 
But yeah, I just there there’s so many different things. I don’t know exactly know what to expect 
because the show throws so many twists, turns,   and curveballs at us. Sure. But I just know like 
I I know that I’m in for a roller coaster ride, but like the best kind of roller coaster ride. 
And do I think he’ll be able to keep Harry P’s code? I mean, we know he just dealt with an a real 
internal and identity crisis this whole season, and it kind of left us in a place where he, you 
know, it showed us where Harry like kind of said like, “Stay away from me.” But I I feel like we’re 
going to get more on cuz I I think the internal dialogue that he has with himself and like showing 
those flashbacks just really goes along with his duality and then just showing what shaped him up 
into like what he is now. But I think like the identity crisis that he dealt with like it was 
such a fascinating angle to take it in season   2. So I think there’s going to be points and turns 
like I think that’s something we all deal with in life. There’s times where like is what we’re 
doing is this the the right way I should be   operating in in this way or like we there’s a lot 
of things we go through in life where we question things. So I think it’s like the right way to 
just be you know to predict that yeah there’s going to be times he’s going to question Harry’s 
code but I feel like at the end of the day like   he knows the man that raised him and the man that 
believed in him. So I feel like he’s still going to operate under the code of Harry. I’ll always 
believe that until I see like this is dead. It’s buried. I’m never going to go with Harry’s 
code and I’m going this is the new code. So,   what about you? Yeah. Uh, season 3 expectations. 
Boy, I I don’t I don’t really have a specific idea in mind. Partly because again, I didn’t really 
see where all of this was headed. That’s what I’m saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, um I don’t 
know just with everything I got one. Sorry. Boy, you’re thinking Pascal is going to cheat or have 
an affair with Laguarta’s boyfriend. That’s going to happen. She’s going to get payback. Definitely. 
Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. Uh and then she’s going   to go uh serial killing people’s fiances out of 
fight. Um yeah, season three. I mean like because all of the you know stuff surrounding, you know, 
Dexter and Dos is taking care of for now. Um, I don’t know. Like I I I I really appreciated 
how this season used its guest stars because you did have one that was something of a villain 
and certainly you had Lundy who I loved it is a, you know, is a one of our good guy characters, 
you know, and a character who’s very enjoyable, very likable, but an antagonist to Dexter the 
Killer. Um, so I mean I expect some kind of, you know, special guest star. Uh, and uh, 
it’s I don’t know. It’s weird. I want to have a satisfying answer to this question. Um, and 
I mean like I’m trying to to count up what the loose ends were at the end of the finale at this 
point. I’ll say this. I really think Laguarta, and I think this is an easy prediction to make. 
She’s not letting go of believing that Do that   Do Yeah. Do’s death and his innocence and she’s 
going to continue to to even though like she said I’ll let the case go and believe that he was 
the Bay Harbor Butcher butcher the Green Bay Packers. I I I butchered that many a couple times 
probably doing the thing, right? Hey, I I’m really like I am apprehensive to say that she is just 
they’ll just move on and uh but I’m still going to mourn for this guy who I was close with like as 
a partner and it seems like they had a little bit of romantic thing right in the past a little bit 
is Raven that was Lua. Did they or No. Yeah. No, that’s confirmed. They they said as much. I mean I 
thought they were like together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   I thought that’s what they said. I just wanted to 
confirm that before I like that’s why I was Yes. So it’s always because too we watch these in big 
chunks and so and we’re also watching other lots of other media too. So I just wanted I just wanted 
to make sure I just wanted to make sure. But the point I’m making is I I feel like she’s going to 
have that excuse me. I feel like she’s going to have that do and Llaya level of obsession of just 
she’s not letting this go. She’s going to be very hardened in the next season and she is going to 
like find any kind of thing that she can to prove uh Do’s innocence, even if that means taking 
Dexter down. And like as as much as we know she loves and feels that charm towards Dexter, if 
she finds out the truth about Dexter, she’s taking him down. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like 
and and I wonder I mean like the thing is I don’t expect necessarily like specifically this season 
will be the season where Legua is hunting Dexter, you know, like I don’t think they’ll go for 
a the same kind of dynamic again. But I can definitely see that being one of the potential 
conflicts, one of the things that you know is uh at least a possibility at some point down the 
line. Uh so yeah, you know, like the way all the things end off, um you know, and everything with 
Laya and everything, you know, it feels like there is a sort of blank slate for Dexter now because 
at least the immediate threats to his visibility uh are taken care of are gone for now. Uh and so 
I don’t know. I don’t I I really don’t know. I almost expect some kind of greater exter external 
force for next season as opposed to, you know, Yeah. an internal force or cuz, you know, they 
got to find something new to do and like a bie from for this season, right? Of some kind, right? 
Yeah. I mean, like again, I think they’ve gone with some very personal uh characters obviously 
because yeah, you’ve had Brian, you’ve had Li, you know, Brian deeply connected from the past. 
You have Laya who’s a new person but who very   much sees the present and you know they both have 
their you know hooks in him to some extent and in a very personal way. I could see another serial 
killer character perhaps arising. I don’t know   if it would necessarily be a close person and uh I 
don’t know how much more interrogating of Harry’s code we’re going to do. Um, partly because to the 
second half of your question, you know, uh, as you   know, will he be able to keep Harry’s code into 
season 3? I I mean, sort of, I feel like it’s kind of in the the monologue, the internal monologue 
there where he says like, you know, it’s it’s my code now. It’s the code of Dexter. And the code 
of Dexter is derived from the code of Harry. It’s,   you know, largely, you know, it’s the sourdough 
starter of the code of Dexter is the code of Harry. Uh, so it’s an evolution. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 
Yeah. So, um, that’s what I meant more on like, yes, the code of death. It’s it’s the code of 
Harry still just personified into his own, but it’s still he’s still going to follow the code of 
Harry in somewhat form. Well, that’s the question,   I think, is is will the code of Dexter amend the 
code of Harry in a way that expands upon it or directly in some way contradicts it or whatever? 
Because, you know, partly through this season,   we’ve interrogated the facts of Harry’s life as 
they’ve been revealed in hindsight and, yeah, Dexter’s own feelings about the code and, you 
know, he’s been, you know, to a point where he’s basically kind of dropping it and then to other 
points where he’s coming back and going, “No,   you know, Harry was right though.” And, uh, so 
yeah, I feel like an amended version of the code will happen. And maybe we’ll even get some kind of 
treatise on what the new code is. We’ll see. Um, but yeah, I feel like Harry’s code, whether it is 
followed to a tea or amended in some way, will be a thing. It seems like it would have to be as long 
as Dexter exists. Um, but yeah, I’m just excited. My biggest point of contention is I just I find 
it hard to believe that Dexter as as much as that itch is always there to like, you know, to take 
people out. I just don’t see him taking out anyone who’s fully innocent and has not deserved it. 
That is where I’m like I draw the line at seeing him do that. Stuff like that seems like yeah, 
it’s well ingrained within him now. Yeah. You know that Yeah, he would have to he still has his 
MO which is Yeah. taking out the trash, you know. Yeah. I will say though. I mean, it’s going to 
be interesting to see him put in a position where   he might have to. Yeah. I think it’s at least 
heartening that, you know, we’ve gone through this whole season and had all the stuff with Rita and 
the fact that he recognizes that Rita and the kids bring him a very important element of humanity and 
he chooses that he and he fights for that by the end of the season. Yeah. And uh I think that is a 
sign that Yeah. To some degree, the core tenets of of Harry’s code will remain. Absolutely. Alrighty, 
Landon Miller, thank you so much. Thank you, Landon. Uh John and Andrew, one of my personal 
favorite seasons is now done. I can see why, man. This was a ride. I am still reeling from 
this. Um so, what did you guys think of Dexter’s inner conflict about turning himself in? Do you 
think he would have actually confessed if things   hadn’t changed? And how do you feel about the fate 
of doses and how it wrapped uh up the Bay Harbor Butcher case? I think before he had that stake 
with the the dinner rather with Deb, I really think he was contempl on on bringing himself in. 
And I think that that whole conversation really made him realize and understand the things that 
are so important and the things that humanize him   and realize what true freedom means. Yeah. And 
I think like that’s what led him on the path to no like this is worth fighting for. Like this is 
why why I need to to keep myself uh you know out of prison and and like have a life that is a uh 
um I I need to have a life that uh has meaning. And this isn’t the meaning is the people that are 
in it. It’s Rita. It’s the kids. It’s Deb. And no, I’m not I’m not like yes, I was going to go away 
for them to like to kind of soften the below for them a little bit, which is protecting them in 
a sense, but no, they are worth fighting for,   and I’m going to fight for them. Well, you 
could almost argue it’s like a self there is an element almost of it’s we it’s a it’s at a 
really interesting crossroads between selfishness and selflessness because you know him turning 
himself in in a lot of ways he looks so light   and he looks so kind of uh almost giddy about it 
and it seems like you know that would have been a easy way to bring himself at least a temporary 
kind of relief. Part of me wonders if he had actually done it and then gone through with it if 
he would have regretted it pretty fast. But yeah,   I liked the framing of that as sort of like, you 
know, a I’m better when I am connected to again the people in my life who I actually do despite 
my perceived lack of feeling care about. You know, I need to be there to protect Deb and Rita and 
whoever else. But also knowing that this is who I am is going to devastate them even more. And after 
all both of those characters have been through, that seems like an an enormous cruelty as well. 
So, you know, obviously there’s kind of like no there’s no moral I guess the moral answer is turn 
yourself in. There’s no really like good answer if you’re Dexter. Um but uh but yeah, I I don’t 
know like I could imagine a world in which he did, but I never was sitting there expecting it 
to happen. But even then I I benefited the doubt of it. you know, part again, I had that 
thought of like, well, maybe in season 3 he’s   working with them from like in a Hannibal Lecter 
capacity or something like that. But um and that was fascinating too that the couple shots where 
they showed Deb’s reaction to him saying he’s   the Bayart Harbor Butcher. I thought that was f 
like where she like freaked out, she shot him or whatever the other reactions were. I thought that 
was really fascinating because moment, again, this   is a very easy assumption or prediction, although 
most of mine have been wrong at this point. I got to imagine at some point Deb is going to find out, 
right? That’s the easy assumption. At some point,   I would have to imagine. And I’m curious how she 
reacts as a woman of the law, a woman who loves her brother so dearly, not having trusts him so 
so deeply, not having known this entire damn time, and also the fact of learning like, wait, dad knew 
this whole time and and trained you to do this or at least like brought you abouts to do this. So, 
it’s going to be like that’s the biggest I know I kind of mentioned earlier like I’m fascinated to 
see all the people closest around him if they do discover Debs is the one I’m I’m most interested 
to see when she finds out the the truth whenever that is season 3, season 4, season 5, whatever it 
is, last episode of season 7 or eight, whatever. Hers is the one I’m most fascinated because 
we know she can be extremely emotional,   understandably so, but hers is the one that that 
interests me the most. We kind of already talked about, but I guess we can talk a little more. 
How did we feel about the fate of doses and how   it wrapped up the Bay Harbor? I will. Yeah, beyond 
heartbroken. I did not mention this though, John, and to you guys. I thought like how everything 
was starting to get stacked up again because   originally Dexter was not trying to frame him. It 
just ended up happening that way and then once it started stacking up against him and in Dexter’s 
favor for the frame, he’s like, “All right,   might as well just embrace this and now get 
to get myself out of this pickle. This is not going against the code of Harry, so let me let me 
like stack the dep deck more against uh Dos.” But it just ended up working out that way to where 
now Dexter is going to be doing this. But the way everything did again because it’s so smartly 
written like him uh ducking out of the interview because he realized holy crap Dexter is the the 
Bay Harbor but butcher and then some of the other things where he left the he found the the blood 
vials. He left them in the trunk cuz I guess at that point Lundy had had some surveillance or 
whatever following him and they checked it. all the things that had happened prior to that and 
like this makes total sense why they it it it’s incorrect but it makes total sense at this point 
why they would think he is the Bay Harbor butcher.   So I thought that was again such an interesting 
angle to take. Yeah, I’m bummed. you know, I’m big I’m big bummed and obviously I think 
it’s it’s an interesting device for the season   because one thing this season I think did uh quite 
vividly was make Dexter his own villain and uh and what better a way to do that than by turning him 
against a character that we many of us I I’m sure some people don’t like him but you know many of us 
really a character that we all enjoy watching but   also who you know we know can’t sort of coexist 
with this and So, um, yeah, I mean, like I think it’s interesting, yeah, that they had It makes me 
wonder, uh, a how much of the book they adapt in the first season versus, you know, was this spread 
out over two seasons? Is this multiple books? Is this, you know, not even a full book? Either way, 
you know, it carries through season one because of that whole instance with the guy on the bridge 
and that sort of like, wait a minute, what’s going   on? Why did you just kill that guy? Um, and then 
you know the ex ranger dude as well. Um, so yeah, I think like the buildup of his uh, you know, the 
deaths caused in the line of his duty, you know, uh, makes for a nice setup to that. And then, 
yeah, certain moments that are smartly played between him and Dexter, especially 
that whole like headbutt thing. Oh,   yeah. I was just thinking about that as you said, 
too. Like, that’s funny. Yes, you are right. and his like very casual like I’m just going to walk 
out now and like you know and it’s a diabolical   move on Dexter’s part and so yeah it’s like it’s a 
bummer because like a lot of what Dexter did there hurts and sucks and is unfair from a contextual 
standpoint not like you know I I don’t I think you know it’s it’s very engrossing writing and 
performance I really enjoyed watching but also yeah left me with that feeling of like god damn I 
wish they could find some way to work it out. Um,   but yeah, like I never would have if you asked me 
who he would frame at first, I’d be like, “God, I don’t know.” Um, but yeah, like having it be that 
this sort of like nemesis of his who also clearly has his own code and who also clearly acts on 
his own instinct, his own gut, his own will. Uh, you know, there is a certain level of, you know, 
common ground that can be drawn between them even if it’s not, you know, 100 or even 50%. Yeah. Um, 
so that’s what I thought too was possibly going to happen. Maybe ideologically speaking, they might 
have somewhere in the middle. Yeah. Found eye to eye, but that just wasn’t going to happen. Yeah. 
It’s like you’re bargaining with yourself cuz you   know it can’t happen. And so yeah, like him going 
down as the Bay Harbor Butcher, like I think it has the desired dramatic effect where it’s like, 
God, I’m sad. I’m really sad about that because   I know it’s an injustice to the character in 
context, you know? I know it’s this poor guy. We know the truth. We know this guy’s intentions. 
We know at least his heart or to some degree. And uh for him to be remembered as the Bay Harbor 
Butcher hurts when you’ve spent the time that   we’ve spent with him and seeing Luerta, you know, 
holding steadfast and that whole thing about like we’re not memorializing the Bay Harbor Butcher, 
we are memorializing our friend and coworker James Dogs. And uh and so it’s it’s again a nice driver 
for tension because you’re like, damn, man. I want to see justice for this guy and his name cleared 
except, you know, I also it’s Dexter and I love Dexter too and this was messed up, but you know, 
Dexter’s our protagonist and he’s our boy. Um, so yeah, very conflicted. Uh, but in the right 
ways, I would say in the desired ways. You know, I don’t think you’re supposed to be 
happy that this happened necessarily.   Um, and I think they did a nice job of doing it in 
such a way where because partly it’s Laya and you know it’s well within her character to do what 
she did. You know, a it’s conscientious. It’s   a way of taking care of all the stakes of the 
season in a way that allows Dexter to continue doing his thing uh without having him break the 
code, without having him cross over into being too unlikable. And then that gets us rooting for him 
to want to take out Laya. So yeah, I I am sad. I am actively mourning the fact that we most likely 
will not be spending any time with Eric King in the context of Dexter anytime soon. Um, and yeah, 
like it sucks in context a lot. Um, and you know, I I think his whole back and forth with Dexter, 
the inner conflict about Dexter turning himself   in is so largely explored through Dos. And you 
know, I thought it was fascinating watching their performances together because yeah, it’s like 
they’re negotiating and they’re speaking directly, but you can also tell that there are layers of 
double speak and you’re like, are they it feels   like they’re creating a connection or creating a 
common ground and at least even though they know that this situation here in the cabin cannot 
persist, something has to give. Ideally, we   take you in Dexter. Like even still, you want to 
believe in those moments that like those little, you know, moments of empathetic eyline are genuine 
or maybe they’re just tactics. But I don’t know. I thought it was all very fascinating and very 
beautifully acted and I’m going to miss him a   whole and I agree with everything you just 
said. Very well put. And also too, the fact that he called him Dexter for the first time was 
called him. That was really striking. That was And also too, like he was about to take him out 
when he then said like he said something about his father like I have information to tell you. 
I I forgot. Yeah. That thing when he hints that,   you know, people were that his dad was some type 
of laughingtock and that his death wasn’t what it seemed. Yeah. Yeah. And then we get that from 
Lieutenant or Captain Tom, I think his name is. And again, I Matthews Matthews. Yeah. And then I’m 
just questioning because again, the show throws so many curveballs. Is that fully what happened? It 
could be. And he seemed genuine when he was saying it. Maybe. We’ll see. I I I I have a feeling 
we might be revisiting that, but you know, my predictions have not always been the greatest. We 
shall see. Golly, that’s a great question, though. Would he have confessed? I maybe depending on the 
turn of events. Anyway, Tara, Tara, probably not, but maybe. Anyway, Tara, thank you so much 
for this is good. I love when a question keeps   scratching at your brain. Uh, for John and Andrew, 
thank you for chiming in. I’m sorry if you’ve already discussed this. It’s all good. Uh, but I’m 
curious about your thoughts on Laya. Uh, was there a moment when Dexter first met her and she became 
a sponsor where you knew she was well, let’s just say trouble for lack of another description that 
I won’t say. I knew you were trouble. Uh, do you think that Deb telling her to go away made things 
worse? Were you surprised by what she did to Do in order to protect Dexter and then end up targeting 
the kids? Okay. So, uh, I think again the actress Jamie Murray, Jamie something or other. Okay. 
What what she did a phenomenal job. She was well, she’s extremely manipulative. She’s gorgeous. And 
I think like watching her descent into obsession. Yeah. was it was a sight to watch like and 
again just the way she de like especially at the beginning of the season watching her deconstruct 
with Dexter like just reading his [ __ ] meter and like knowing like she knows that there’s a dark 
passenger and this this is just a facade like it was it was great writing I thought and like it was 
she’s a fascinating character whether you love her   or you hate her I I can’t imagine too many people 
loving her I mean you know I I I like the look of her more than I I like her personal ity. But 
that’s another thing, you know, that’s that’s   more of a Vince comment. But I will say that 
her interactions with Dexter are fascinating, you know, even though again they they hinge on 
more manipulation and obsession, but they are fascinating because they’re grounded in reality 
then people behave this way. So did we know from the beginning that she was trouble? I I think that 
was Yeah, that was definitely I think we both did, right? I would say she’s well cast and she played 
the role with the right amount of free spirit. Yeah, free. That’s exactly the word I was going 
to look for is like freespiritedness that Yeah. Upon I definitely in the first scenes where we 
were meeting her where they were actually talking uh I did have that thought cross my mind of like 
oh you’re at least even if you’re benevolent of intent you are going to be a whirlwind to deal 
with. I I gather. Uh yeah trouble I think is a good word. you seem like trouble. And I think, 
you know, the whole conceit of the support group of the narcotics anonymous group is good because 
obviously you’re going to have people in there,   at least some people in there who would 
come across like they’re a bit trouble. And uh so yeah, it it again plays on you as a viewer 
to sympathize and extend the benefit of the doubt at least initially. Um, but yes, it certainly felt 
like I would say arguably early on it certainly felt like she was going to be a handful and going 
to be probably not a good influence on Dexter. And I very vividly remember the sort of early moments 
of the season especially where you’re like I don’t   I don’t I don’t trust I don’t like this for some 
reason. I don’t trust this. But she’s saying some fair things and it seems like you know stuff that 
a person in recovery, someone like Dexter might need to hear. Um, but yeah, like Deb telling her 
to go away. I think I like that it came from a place of protection though. like she is not afraid 
to to protect the people in her life or stand up for them whether and again just an example 
for that like when and again granted it’s her   boyfriend but it doesn’t matter who it is whether 
it’s Dexter or Lundy like when what’s I’m so sorry Jonathan Banks is yes when Jonathan Banks was like 
whether he was taking credit or not giving enough credit to Lundy and like she literally just told 
him to f off and say like this is the reason this guy is the reason why I like like how she stands 
up for people like that she loves and cares for. Like, you know, and again, Deb is emotional, 
but you know, she uses I think she was kind of   using the words of motivation that Lundy told her 
earlier on when she was having trouble like moving on from her horrific experience with By from 
last season. She was using that as as strength, you know, to to push forward and uh her emotion. 
And I like that she did that. She did. Granted, she like look, it’s not she didn’t know what was 
going to come about of that. I think it was kind   of bad timing and like her being at the apartment 
to see if what’s her I mean I I know the question is more just do you think her telling her to make 
things worse? Possibly. But I think that the thing   that it’s a lateral move honestly like I think 
things were already pretty bad and if it wasn’t Deb it was going to be something. Yeah, for sure. 
But I think that the the biggest thing that was   because Dexter had a plan to get rid of Laya. I 
think the biggest thing that was the and again not Deb’s fault. It was just bad timing when Deb went 
to the to Laya’s apartment or her or her loft, whatever it was. When she went there, that that 
was like the nail in the coffin for like bad timing. And now because his bag was down there 
and just like he was not in a position where he   could use the uh the was it the train uh what what 
was it the shots that he uses to unconscious? The sedative. Yeah. So because she bad timing I think 
that’s what made things worse, you know, telling her to go away. She’s just being Deb. I think she 
she had a fair reason to tell. Like this woman is a terrible influence on her brother. This woman 
accused Angel of some horrific things. And I know Deb didn’t have proof that he didn’t do, but she 
knows Angel really well and she knows the crappy influence that this woman has on her brother. So, 
you know, I I I know it was a fair assumption for her to make from that perspective. And she was 
she ended up being right. So, you know, you can give her credit on that. Uh, but go ahead and then 
we’ll answer the the final part of the question.   Yeah, I mean I don’t think her telling Deb Deb 
telling Yla to leave town like it certainly had an effect obviously. It’s the kind of thing Laya 
would respond to in some way. But yeah, it seems   like that was going to that message was going to 
continually be delivered until things came to a head. And you know, Deb has never at any point in 
any of the scenes in which Laya and Deborah are in the same room had any trouble being like, “I don’t 
like you. I don’t think you’re good for my brother   and I think you’re trouble and I think you should 
leave.” Uh so, you know, it was a badass scene for Deb. And uh yeah, I guess like I’m sure 
it had an effect, but I wouldn’t really say that it made things that much worse. I think if 
anything it probably just moved the inevitable up a little sooner. I would say the thing that made 
it the worst probably is when Dexter said like I’m going away and then he s she saw and she was like 
staring obsessively into with seeing her on him on the boat leaving with Rita and the kids. I’d say 
that is the point of no return for her into I that is not as Yeah. big of a threat. Yeah. I would 
say like the point of no return is seeing that   and I will do whatever it takes to make Dexter 
mine. And that’s when this whole pla uh plan you know that she had for with Angel and then oh I can 
I can drop the charges but you have to be whatever like that’s when this whole plan came about and 
then she got the and then she did the navigation   system and all that you know to go she didn’t know 
she was going to find dos up there but which moves us into the next portion of the question. Were 
you surprised by what she did to do in order to   protect Dexter and then end up I was surprised 
what happened to Was I did whatever it took to make to protect Dexter? No. And then targeting the 
kids. No. For Dexter, I’m not surprised that Laya, a person of impulse, a person of free spirit, a 
person of obsession, a person who’s out of their mind. I was not surprised in any way that she 
would be ina that she would be capable of going to such ludicrous matters. I’m not surprised. I was 
surprised that Dos was killed for sure. But I was not surprised that she was willing to do whatever 
it took to make to protect Dexter and to make Dexter be with her. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like it’s 
certainly in the moment you wonder maybe there’s an element of suspense and part of me was thinking 
to myself, okay, is she going to I don’t trust that she would ever have Do’s best interests in in 
mind or at heart, but part of me sort of wondered like, okay, is she going to respond to this in 
a way that uh suggests she might use him to some degree to her advantage in in a different way when 
comes to Dexter uh versus yeah choosing the sort of like oh my god I know who you are now I see you 
I realize you know all that you’ve been carrying around with you and if this is part of your plan 
then I am going to help you know see it through and she clearly knows enough to know that this 
guy’s probably not helping Dexter out in any way. Um, so yeah, like in those moments, it’s another 
one of those uh it’s another one of those things where you look at it and you say to yourself like, 
“Okay, I know she’s capable of killing people in a roundabout fashion.” Uh, but this is a character, 
yeah, who is, you know, one of our main ensemble and this is a guest character. So, in the at least 
the hierarchy of that consideration, you know,   arguably Dog should get out of this somehow. Um, 
but yeah, it’s it’s weird. We’ve crossed so many lines of no return, especially with a character 
like Laya. And it’s another one in that scene you’re like, would she? Probably, I guess. You 
know, it seems like what you learn over time about Laya is that yeah, like she pretty much has an 
obsession with de like her addiction now is Dexter essentially, and she is using any means possible 
to isolate him from any other thing in life. Um, and sometimes that means supporting him and, you 
know, giving whatever his work is a bit of a nudge forward. And sometimes that means doing something 
really histrionic and and outlandish like cing catching yourself in in a fire that you set or 
kidnapping the kids or things like that. So, uh, yeah, I mean certainly by the end it becomes 
very clear like that there is no line she will not cross and you get the lines keep escalating. 
certainly and her chaotic choices of how to, you know, stick and twist the knife, you know, 
only escalate. Um, but yeah, in a breath, I I was surprised just because of the general idea that I 
wasn’t expecting to die. And even in that moment, I was sitting there bargaining with myself 
going, “Well, maybe this place will explode,   but he’ll make it out somehow.” I was 100% with 
you on that. I really thought like he was going to survive somehow. And also I found it it was crazy 
too that once she realized like hey there’s no way this guy is gonna be with me so if I can’t have 
him nobody will. Yeah. Fascinating again another fascinating angle to to take it you know with with 
her character. So well and the idea that yeah she does all this in order to protect Dexter and then 
targets the kids like that that didn’t surprise   me in the least because she doesn’t care about 
the kids and the kids are an obstacle between her and Dexter. So I I feel like that is more 
to be expected even than uh what she did to to uh so yeah. Yeah. Cuz we were kind Yeah. We you 
and I were wrestling too for the last like two   or three episodes. Is it the kids? Is it Rita? Who 
is she taking? Or is it both? Or all three rather, excuse me. But like yeah was we were like 
questioning that like who what is she gonna do   to them? So just glad nobody everyone escaped. But 
again, seeing what psychologically what the kids are going to be wrestling with next season because 
that was a lot that’s a lot to deal with. I mean,   it’d be a lot for you and I to have to deal 
with if someone threw us in in a fire and we barely survived and, you know, we’re, you know, a 
little bit older than those children. Like, I I’d   probably have some PTSD from that. No, no joke. 
So, I’m fascinated by how the children are going to react to that as well. Yeah. And now Cody, they 
made that whole point about like, oh, you know,   Cody’s not old enough to really remember what 
Paul was like, but Aster is. And they’re both, it would seem they are both old enough to 
remember this [ __ ] with Llaya. The so yeah, there’s got to be some fallout from that for 
sure. But thank you so much, Tara. Thank you,   Tara. All right, Corey H about Dexter. Thank you 
so much for chiming in. How do you feel about the fact that Dexter was essentially both hero for us 
viewers and the villain for the people of Miami   as the Bay Harbor Butcher during this season? 
And what are your thoughts on this plot taking place in a show’s second season rather than being 
reserved for a final season of a show when the   character’s secret is finally revealed? I mean, 
I think that’s the grounded way to do the the approach, right? Is like we see him as the hero 
because the people don’t know that he’s I mean, well, I guess they did know that he was taking out 
the garbage, right, of of humanity. So, I mean, they did know, but like we get to spend so many 
waking moments with this character. So, we know all about Dexter. We know his inner complex. We 
know everything about him. But I think that’s   the dramatic way to take it is to is the unknown 
and what people don’t know. And it adds this fear level for them of like, oh my god, there’s this 
person out there. But also like it adds this moral gray line like because there was some chatter 
where we saw I think he was in a coffee shop or   something. We heard some I I I think again there 
were a couple moments where people were discussing their thoughts on the Bay Harbor butcher but but 
I think I think he’s doing a good thing. I think   he needs to be locked up, you know? Right. But we 
did see I I remember Rita and like Cody, they were worried about like the Bay Harbor Butcher. So I I 
think like again grounded in reality there would be people like who don’t know all the facts or 
don’t have all the context. Even if he’s taking out like if he’s going outside the law they would 
view him as a villain. even if he’s, you know, not not working within uh the the constraints 
of the law. So again, it’s the grounded take to the it’s the grounded reality and grounded take 
to do. So I thought that was the right way and right approach. What about you? Yeah. Um, I mean, 
I like I think one of the most interesting aspects of this season from a conceptual standpoint 
is the fact that Dexter is both the hero and the villain to himself and to us the viewers, I 
think, in both capacities as well as, you know, to the, you know, citizens of Miami. It’s like 
h the middle chunk of the season. And it’s been really interesting to experience these in 
these Yeah. like four episode acts basically and and especially during like act two, that middle 
chunk of episodes, it really felt like, you know,   Dexter was twisting and kind of flying off the 
handle and really kind of feeling himself and, you know, embracing himself in a very toxic uh to 
borrow a very current way of describing that way. Um, and yeah, like I thought that was some of the 
most interesting stuff is the way that like for part of the season I don’t really like Dexter 
that much cuz he uh was becoming much more of a villain and becoming much more about, you know, 
the bloodthirst and his, you know, design of all this and, you know, he does start making errors 
in judgment or at least judgments that are coming from a different place than he normally would. 
And I think it’s credit to Michael Seahhal’s   performance that you can really feel the book 
ends or I could this season of like at the start he feels like Dexter that I got to know over the 
whole course of season one and then in the middle   of the season he seems like he’s becoming a darker 
different per he seems like the dark passenger has now taken the wheel and is becoming the guy and 
has put Dexter over in the passenger seat now uh almost as like the light passenger and so 
you resolving the season at a point where he kind of comes back to himself and realizes that 
he’s kind of gone off on this bender of sorts. uh I think it was really interesting and as you 
said you know like uh this plot being the plot of the second season I think it’s really bold but 
uh yeah it’s like I can absolutely see what you mean and I feel like yeah having it be that all 
this is revealed and you know I think this would have ended differently had he had this been the 
the last season you know if this was their final season do probably would have made it or maybe 
at least Dexter would have in some way been found out or whatever. I imagine I don’t know and I know 
that this show or Dexter even going to die. The one thing I know about this show is that there’s 
an ending to the original chunk that people aren’t   very happy about. And so uh I I don’t know what 
that means, what the context is. Uh but yeah, I uh I would say that um it’s it’s a it’s a bold 
choice. It’s still a choice that I’m like, ah, it is quirky because it does seem 
obvious to save something like this. Yeah.   But I do think that also sometimes a choice like 
this uh a bold again choice that you know leaves no punches pulled then forces you to get that 
much more creative the next time. And I feel like   especially in an undertaking like TV where you’re 
working for months on end on one story and then you take a you know few months off and then you 
come back and you start doing it all over again   you know I feel like you kind of have to throw 
ideally perhaps you would throw everything at the wall exhaust yourself of the inspiration for 
that season. take some time off and then come back and then solve all those problems and like that 
if you accept the challenge and you rise to it   then we’ll you know be get more interesting stuff 
hopefully down the line um so yeah it’s a quirky thing it’s an interesting thing I think they used 
it to good effect here people seem to really love   this season I certainly really appreciated it 
I you know the the emotional flavors are more harsh and more ugly and more feverish to some 
degree in this season uh as I perceive them but uh yeah him being both hero and villain across the 
board I thought was really interesting. And yeah,   there were moments where I didn’t like him 
or didn’t like the choices he was making, didn’t agree with the choices he was making, even 
if they were pragmatic, you know, and sometimes   his attitude, his display of emotion. Uh, yeah, 
was certainly feeling like a different, darker version of this guy. Yeah, I could definitely see 
this being a final season of this show. But also too to what John was saying earlier, you you don’t 
they probably didn’t know at this time if this was their final season or not. So they were like you 
said, they weren’t pulling many punches. That’s   a good segue actually into pet my chicken. Oh, 
well I just one second then. What was I apolog I could uh I will say this. I I think this was a 
very bold and ambitious choice. What they chose to like really focusing on the inner conflicts of 
Dexter uh that they chose to focus this entire most of the the plot of this season on. I think 
that was and with the Bay Harbor Butcher. I think that was fascinating because they they really 
could have gone like it probably still would have   been great, but if they would have just gone with 
like someone who’s not as personal as a villain as like Bine was in season 1, but they have like a 
killer of of the season and we’ve got to solve the crime, that still would have been great. I would 
have been down for that. Hell yeah. But like the   fact that you’re like, “No, we’re going to sub.” 
And again, I I try not to use this word like too often, but if you subvert just to subvert and it’s 
not interesting, it’s going to kind of annoy me, honestly. But if you subvert in a bold and 
interesting way and it pushes the plot forward and it pushes the characters forward again in a 
way that is fascinating, I’m okay with it. Well, and the show’s called Dexter. So like to 
subvert an expectation by doing something   that only forces you further down the rabbit 
hole of your central character. Yeah. I feel like you can always make an argument to do that. 
For sure. And like in my mind and I I personally do not like predictability. I was I in my mind 
I was predicting that they were just going to go another killer of of the the season which I 
would have been fine with as long as it’s good. But the fact that they did this and it was really 
fascinating to watch and this identity crisis that   he goes on and then Laya woman who is manipulative 
obsessive and really deconstructs him and really like pushes him down the wrong path and like 
he if he doesn’t turn back like he could really like just really go down a path that is like the 
point of no return. There’s a lot of fascinating elements this season. The only like thing that 
really like really broke my heart more than   anything was obviously doses. I’m really going 
to be sad about that depending on what happens in the coming seasons. But I’m again I’ve been told 
seasons three and four are excellent TV. So I’m very again interested to see what what happened 
and what transpires rather. But I I think they made bold and ambitious choices in regards to the 
plot and the characters and how they develop. So I   was totally cool with it with with what happened. 
Absolutely. And I mean yeah it’ll it’ll kind of matter. It’ll it’ll kind of I I feel like we’ll 
have to revisit a question like this as we see   what else the show gives us. For sure. That I was 
going to say that’s a great point. I’d love to answer that revisit that question once we get like 
further down the line just to see like how much more I enjoyed or would have liked this season’s 
plotline inserted maybe in a different season. So, good great question though. Thank you. 
Absolutely. All right. Pet my chicken,   thank you so much for being here once again. Uh, 
I don’t know how many seasons the showrunners knew they were getting. Uh, but I’ve always wondered if 
they were if they knew that, sorry, I don’t know how many seasons the showrunners knew they were 
getting, but I’ve always wondered if they knew   uh they were getting eight seasons, would they 
have kept Dos alive longer? He was such a good character. I mean that question too and I’m so 
sorry that that makes me apprehensive to think unless you’re you’re being you’re giving us a 
Dexter curveball right now to think that Doses is   alive anymore in the remaining seasons with this 
type of question, right? Cuz you’re saying like if they knew that there were is do going to be in 
any more scene because we’re we’re playing around in our minds right now the last like 50 or hour uh 
long that we’ve been doing this review. were like, “Wait, is there a maybe possibility that Do 
somehow survived?” Well, this type of question maybe confirms that there’s he’s not coming 
back, right? Oh, I mean, sir, well, yeah. I think from I don’t think there’s any logical 
reason to assume he would come back if you were watching this in real time. You said he could. 
He changed out his teeth and did something. Well, yeah, you’re bargaining with it. I could see that. 
And I don’t know. You know, you can always do some weirdo recconing down the line. Uh, that’s true. 
And yeah, like I would be thrilled if there’s some weird secret hatch they can pull to bring Eric 
King at least back onto the show somehow. But flashbacks I see, though. It would be rad. But but 
yeah, uh I don’t know. I I have to imagine that if they knew they were going to get eight seasons, 
we would probably have spent some more time with   him. But then again, I I am also curious to jump 
into some of the creative uh you know, whatever material there is about the creatives discussing 
the show and what their ideas were and how they   proceeded executing them. I would be curious 
to know because yeah, it seems like there’s a lot of interesting behindthe-scenes stuff as well 
as what’s on screen regarding this. Yeah. I mean,   John and I have already spoken at homminum about 
it that we adnauseium. Adnauseium. Ad homonym is a is a type of logical fallacy. Oh, thank you. 
I appreciate that. It’s like when you attack   the person instead of their argument is the ad 
homonym. Gotcha. Thank you. Well, we have spoken at nauseium about it and I mean, we both loved 
Oaks. We adore him. So, I would have personally loved to have seen him kept on here a lot longer. 
Yeah, he was terrific. I would like to revisit this type of question to see where they, you 
know, push the needle and move the story forward in in regards to the characters as well because I 
don’t know where we’re heading right now. I mean,   we we’ve made some predictions. Who knows where 
they go from here, but I lean towards Yes, they might have kept they may maybe another season 
or two or more. Who knows? But I mean, the longer you keep him, the more you have to come up with 
ways to sell that that his smarts and Dexter’s cunning still can’t quite catch each other. And 
if they would have known and again, if they would   have known that they’re going to do eight seasons, 
if they knew that from the very beginning, I got to imagine too like they still would have had they 
would have continued with this cat and mouse that   he’s chasing after Dexter, but he doesn’t find 
the truth out yet. Yeah, he’s just not he’s just not going to let Dexter walk free when he know 
or at least he’s got to build up the evidence,   right? Cuz he did know for a couple episodes. 
He’s got to build a case around it, right? So, yeah, I would say the the the short answer to your 
question is uh they probably would have kept him   around. Yes, Siri Bobberino. And I’m sad. I don’t 
know. I’ll reserve judgment as to whether I’m sad that we live on the timeline where that didn’t 
happen or not because this was great TV. Yeah. But   appreciate you pet my chicken. All right, Tara is 
back. Thank you so much, Tara, for your enthusiasm today. Uh, I have a couple more questions again. 
It’s all good. If we touched on them, we’ll just   be brief. Um, one from the pilot episode, you have 
enjoyed the uh have uh you have enjoyed the back and forth relationship between Dexter and Dos. 
What are your thoughts on Do’s learning about   Dexter and the time they spent together and their 
conversations while Dol was locked in the cage and actually witnessed Dexter working at that 
point? Did you know Do’s demise was imminent? Um, you know, I think we were definitely, as we’ve 
touched upon, I think all the way through that, uh, I was definitely bargaining in my brain 
of like how this could possibly work out. Um, but at the back of your mind, you just look at the 
circumstances and you’re sort of like, I don’t see   how this can’t work out. And if he doesn’t die, 
then he’s definitely going to expose Dexter. And, you know, um, so that’s a good point, too. 
Yeah. As much as I would love him back,   too. And we for pointed that out. You’re right. 
Like Dexter’s not going to be free. That’s that’s the problem. Or he’s going to have to like look 
over his shoulder every every minute of the day   for him. I had assumed he was on the show longer, 
but again, as we have begun this journey, I have done my best to avoid anything Dexter related 
that would give me any kind of context. So, like from the before times, I I’ve sort of got 
the impression that he was around for longer. But, uh, but yeah, some of my favorite of his scenes, 
and I’ve loved him across the show, but some of   my favorite of his scenes were in the shack there 
with them actually talking to each other because again, even if it is just deescalation tactics, 
he’s, you know, good at his job in that case or if we really are seeing him get a little bit 
vulnerable, like that’s rewarding also. So, and   I thought that stuff was really interesting and to 
see them finally after all of this kind of talking eye to eye, man-to-man, and dropping a lot of the 
performative animosity and just, you know, really working this problem I thought was really cool and 
really engaging and especially even though I don’t know if I ever really was convinced that Dexter 
was 100% going to turn himself in, them working toward that was really beautiful in this doomed 
kind of Hey. Yeah. And and also too before we answer the second part of Terara’s question, I’ll 
also say too in regards to Eric King, the way he   emoted in his facial expression when Laya came and 
he thought he was being rescued. Like you could see the relief in his face and his eyes and he 
was like and you felt for him even though we knew like you know Laya’s got nefarious uh you know 
motives and ulterior motives rather. Yeah. And then when he came to the realization and when she 
said, “Oh, he’s the Bay Harbor Butcher.” And then she knew like, you know, she’s there for Dexter 
and like he knew he was screwed. But the when the realization came on his face and he was able to 
emote that, again, that speaks to the power level of his acting abilities and the versatility 
that he carries as as an actor. that I’m Yes, I’m going to miss the interactions and the the 
cat and mouse stuff between him and Dexter, but that I’m going to miss that, too. Like I I 
loved watching that man emote on screen. He is so damn good. He’s really good. Like watching him 
like turn to that where he went from relief to I’m screwed and you can see that visual narration in 
his face. It’s really impressive to watch. It’s   mesmerizing honestly when there’s like a dark 
humor to the fact that like it’s so exasperate like you know his whole experience as soon as 
he gets to that island or whatever that is that that little you know water locked area landlocked 
whatever you say. Uh yeah, like the whole thing was just like a symphony of wamp wamp circumstance 
just exasperating like worst case scenar. Yes. Yeah. And so there’s just this like constant 
back and forth with this guy and you really do   believe his exhaustion by the end of just like oh 
my god I don’t care man like I’m done with this man like get away from me I don’t want to deal 
with this. That’s a great point John. Agreed.   Yeah so many great so many so many great beats and 
moments and that whole thing of like you know this got to end like that whole thing he’s shouting 
like just kill me man like it’s got to end somehow   like it’s wild. Um, second half of the question 
though, after watching Dexter for a couple seasons now, do you think he is beginning to have actual 
feelings for people andor things? The scene in   episode 9 when he wakes up outside Rita’s house 
wanting to make sure they were safe and the apology he gave her saying that he felt regret and 
that he messed up so badly so stupendously seemed genuine and not something that was faking to be 
normal. Thank you. Uh, I love these reactions and look forward to them every week. Thanks, Terra. 
We appreciate you so much, Tara. again. This has   been such a long time coming and it has been so 
thrilling to actually be on this journey and to be enjoying it as much as we are. Yeah, for sure. Um 
yeah, I I think you know the debate about Dexter, one of the debates about Dexter across the show 
has been do we take him at his word basically that he doesn’t have the emotions you know emptiness 
hollowess is I think in itself a kind of emotion you know even if you feel devoid of emotion 
there’s a certain something that’s happening there and uh yeah I think certainly all the events 
of this season has made the sort peaks and valleys of whatever Dexter’s emotional experience is a lot 
more jagged and prominent. And I think that yeah, I I venture to guess that he’s always had 
feelings and emotions because again like yes, he is logical. Yes, there is emulation involved. 
Yes, he has studied human behavior and been   encouraged to mimic it. But um but yeah, like I 
think the whole thing with Rita and the kids is is and he even acknowledges like they are part of 
what helps to make him more human and they’re you know clearly something that have ens snared him 
somehow and that he chooses by the end. So I feel like and yeah like that whole thing where he wakes 
up in the yard and he’s just you know kind of at the end of a rope but also you know here making 
sure that they’re okay. Yeah, definitely speaks to   the fact that there’s something genuine in there, 
even if it’s, you know, down a long dark corridor or something like that. Uh, yeah, I feel like 
definitely the events of this season kind of show that he at least has the instinct and the natural 
inclination to fight for them and to recognize what they bring to his life and also how he 
affects their lives. And so even if it’s not from the most traditional emotional place, I do think 
that there are I think the point is that yes, there is some degree of feeling, some variety of 
feeling happening. And uh yeah, it’s interesting to watch it win or lose. And and also the irony 
of the fact that yeah, like as he is being called to accept himself and is feeling more sort of 
euphoria based on that, you know, like that has a whole effect on everything as well. Like, you 
know, there are positive instances of this, but I   think a lot of what the season was grappling with 
was negative instances of this as well. His sort of adopting a more traditional serial killer style 
megalomania of sort of like my mission is pure and I’m, you know, smarter than it. You know, in 
the earlier part of the show, I think it’s nicely zoomed in on the fact that it feels intimate and 
it feels one at a time. It feels sort of like this is my next victim. This is the next person I’ve 
discovered who is doing terrible things, who needs   to be removed from the streets. and that’s kind 
of it. There’s the box, there’s the trophy aspect, but in the second season, it felt more like a 
totality, more like look at all the, you know,   like and and yeah, I I feel like the emotionality 
was all over the place in in a in in a intentional way because obviously characters like Laya are 
like wildly emotionally chaotic. Um, and yeah, and every character’s different disposition serves 
to do something. And yeah, it’s like Angel, even though, you know, Dexter doesn’t feel stuff, he 
does look out for this guy and does seem to have   like a genuine affinity for at least well well 
intent towards him. So, absolutely. Yeah, I think the the question of his emotions are interesting, 
but I do think there’s something there. Oh, yeah.   No, I mean, we talked about it a little earlier 
and I do agree to your point that these characters do humanize him for sure. whether it’s Rita, it’s 
Aster, or it’s Cody, or it’s Deb, his relationship with her, or even Angel’s friendship with him, or 
I would even venture to say with Vince as well,   like they’ve got a fascinating uh, you know, 
spar back and forth friendship as well. Well, I would even say too, even though he was dealing a 
great deal with a little bit of a world shattering view on his his foster father with Harry and he’s 
going through an identity crisis this season, like the way that he raised him and his mentorship 
from Harry, like that also humanizes him a great deal as well. So, you know, in regards to him 
waking up in the yard, like I think that was a very triumphant moment for the character. And 
what I mean by that, apologizing to her after he had done something that is very unforgivable 
for cheating on her and not asking for anything in return. Again, it’s it’s a very unforgivable 
offense. But I think the fact that he had   accountability over the matter and he was not 
asking for anything back and he just said, “Hey, I’m not asking for anything. I just wanted you to 
know I care deeply about you and the children and   I just wanted you to know you mean a lot and 
I’m so sorry. That’s all I but I just wanted to say it. I think that was like the character 
really growing. Yeah, it was really maturing and   growing uh for the character like and I think like 
an immature way uh uh in a needy thing would have been like but I want you back like everything Laya 
does. Yeah. But I you know what I mean? So I I was like again that whole thing of I just needed to 
say it. Yeah. She’s like I don’t know if I accept   I don’t know if I can do like that’s fine. I just 
need to say it for sure. But I think that was such a big moment for him and for us the audience 
accepting that is what he when he said I just needed to say it. And I I really appreciate like 
there was so much meaning and emotional weight just in that in that dialogue of him saying that 
and not wanting back anything in return cuz you know and again having that accountability of like 
hey I I have I made a really bad mistake. Granted, and again, it’s it’s not just Laya, like there 
there were both of them, but this woman really   did like steer him down the wrong path. And 
a great deal goes towards her, but you know, Dexter is a grown adult and he made the decision 
as well. Grant, this is a very very attractive woman uh uh woman rather that uh led him down this 
path. But I I understand like the motivations and why he went down this path. That again does not 
justify it. He had the most amazing woman. And I love that Deb was also I think that like it really 
goes under under spoken, John, how much of a great influence Deb is for Dexter. Like she like she 
really put it into perspective for him. Like dude, you had the greatest woman ever and you effed 
it. Like like try getting her back and then   like really trying to get rid of this woman, 
Llaya. Like I I I really really appreciate Deb. I I really like and again I love that she’s so uh 
emotional but also at the same point she’s willing to stand up for people she cares for and like I I 
really appreciate her so much and again Jennifer Carpenter she just does such a damn good job in 
this show. She she’s amazing. So yes, absolutely. Jay Rushton, what up Jape? How you doing Jay? 
Thank you for chiming in once again. Like what Dexter character do you want to see in season 
3 be used more often? Wow. Okay. Uh Vince, I want to see his browser history. Uh you 
know, always take more Msuka, more Angel. Yeah. Uh I I would be down to watch more Angel 
again. I I have a feeling it’s going to be Lua. I just I feel like like where we left off with 
the character with Dope Prime for I just like from a writer’s mind that feels like that’s the 
character you you you position yourself to like let’s focus really heavily on cuz she’s going to 
be the one who is left devastated the most from dos and I feel like that’s a character who’s just 
not going to let go and we can really and she’s got the position of power back now too how does 
she use that position of power right and she’s also I feel like John she’s going to feel like 
a pariah in the office because she believes so   much in doses and she’s like I feel like she’s not 
going to let this go understandably so and she’s in the right. I feel like got to be I I don’t 
know. What about you? I mean I I would agree. I mean I think that that’s definitely likely. Um 
and I would be you know pleased to keep I I you know her ups and downs are certainly what they 
are but uh I really like watching her. But what   character do I want to see in season 3 be used 
more? What would you want to see? Oh okay. Okay, I was superh Angel. I love Angel, man. Especially 
what happened to him after like damn. He was not done dirty by the writers cuz it was like I mean 
but he was done dirty by Laya. So I would love to to see him done dirt dirty by the writers. Well, I 
mean that that crap for a reason. Yes. Yes. For a dramatic. But the point is maybe he can be done. 
Maybe he can be done undirty this time in this season. Like he can have that would be nice. Yeah. 
He can like maybe find an actual love interest   that doesn’t want to do very nefarious things 
to him for a reason to get back a Dexter. Like I would love to see something nice happen. He solves 
like a very big case. He finds a love interest and I know the show’s got other things to focus on, 
but I’ve really grown attached to to Angel. So I I I would love it if they could focus a little 
more on Angel this season. I want I want them to   focus more on character actress Margot Martindale. 
Who? The woman from the file department. Who? Oh, the one who he brings the donuts to. Oh, I was 
like an episode or two each of these seasons. Yeah. Yeah. Just to remind you. Oh [ __ ] she’s on 
the show. I was like, who the hell are you talking about? Okay, I know who you’re talking about now. 
She’s like in two or three episodes, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think you’re right. That’s the character 
to focus on. Agreed. That would be fun. She knows   the history of Harry and everything. You know 
what? They might actually to to your point they might go back to her just because I think we 
got to learn a little bit more about what did   what really happened to Harry really happen as 
uh what’s his name the theat Matthews did it might be Tom Matthews Tom did Matthews his yeah 
did that really happen like he said because like again that dude I kind of did what’s her name a 
little bit dirty also in season one when he got rid of her as the lieutenant or whatever so Oh 
yeah we’ll we’ll see we’ll see don’t love that All right, son rock, penultimate question of the 
day. Hey, now that you finished and thank you. Uh, now that you finished season 2, what hopes do you 
have for season 3? What story lines or character   beats do you hope to see pursue? What are you 
hoping gets left behind? If anything, jokes being dead I hope gets left behind and they just bring 
him back and don’t acknowledge how. That’s what I hope gets left behind. boy. Um, I mean, I think as 
you pointed out a moment ago, I think, you know, definitely something to do with Legua. I think she 
will be changed after this. I don’t necessarily even expect that like she won’t still be kind 
of sweet on Dexter, but um, I got to imagine there’s something with her. I got to imagine Deb 
is going to be very much, you know, Deb and and sort of more empowered from the events of season 2 
than not. But certainly I she’s got to go on some kind of journey here and I I as much as I you know 
ship her and Lundy hard you know it would be nice to see her get some good going that’s just good 
and can not you know be marred by any circumstance uh inev like immediately anyway. Um I think like 
that’s going to be the first question she asked to whatever guy she ends up dating. Two two things. 
One are you a serial killer? Yeah. And number two, do you have any plans of moving away in the next 
10 years? Yeah, those are those are the basic two questions. 10 year plan. Yeah, I would say I mean 
we’ve already spoken at Nauseium at what story lines or character beats we think could possibly 
happen or what we’d like to see pursued. I’m going to go back to Vince again and I’m going to say 
I’m not I’m not going to make a joke about it.   I’d actually like to see him and again not 
not uh particularly accuse Dexter of any No, I’m being serious on this one. I’d actually not 
like to see him accuse Dexter like at this at any   point in season 3. start to get a little bit like 
wary of him or start not wary rather but start to get a little bit like he’s starting to catch on 
to Dex because a lot of times like and again it’s   his coworker his friend but like there’s so many 
times where Dexter is feeding him such BS and he always buys it. Right. Sure. So, I’d love it if 
he’s like starting to like uh starting to like understand like everything Dexter like a lot of 
times what he’s telling me like is not adding up.   Yeah. And he’s starting to catch on to that rather 
is what I’m trying to articulate. And again, he hasn’t like fully like this guy’s a serial killer. 
Like I know it now. Like do 2.0. Yeah. I I don’t need that. But just like why are a lot of times is 
like with Dexter is just again just just give me a little seed and like maybe in four in season five 
or six like Vince has put the pieces together now. You know what I mean? Like kind of maybe wants 
to talk to to or not talk to Dexter but yeah but but something like he knows something is a miss. 
Something like never adds up with what Dexter is telling him. Like why is this miss? Why is that 
there? Wait, I thought this was supposed to be   here today. that’s missing too. You know what I’m 
saying? Like I think that would be a fascinating way to explore too possibly that he’s somewhat on 
to him. Sure. Sure. Hey, it would be it would be fascinating if that would happen with a sexual 
innuendo joke here and there. Of course. Yeah,   of course. You got it. Yeah. He’s he will say, 
you know, you got boned when he fig you know when he tells Dexter he figured him out. Yes. Totally 
bone you. Yes. Or some innuendo like that. Uh I yeah I’m curious to see where Rita goes cuz she’s 
just been on this path of growth and certainly with Dexter back in back in good graces, you know. 
I’m curious to see what happens there. Uh curious to see what happens with Laguerta. Just generally 
hoping to see more Angel and Msuka because I love watching them. Um I don’t know. Like part of this 
feels like because we did such a personal season two, we could do a more outwardlooking season 3. 
I would love that. Not to say that there wouldn’t   be anything for Dexter to be challenged by in that 
context, but like season one leading into season two was very much like a oh damn we are turning 
inward and after doing that I could imagine kind of responding to that by turning outward. 
So, I guess the main thing I expect is another interesting guest star and perhaps uh more Dexter 
doing Dexter stuff again because this is kind of like the sequel where like the the hero hangs 
up the suit for a while or at least is sort of   like grappling with I got to lay low. I can’t for 
various reasons Dexter doesn’t do a whole lot of Dextering this season. Um so I’m imagining there 
would be more a bit more of that. Agreed. No, he’s going to fill up that new trophy. No, for 
sure. As Glen Fry would say, the heat is on. So,   I agree. Absolutely. But, uh, would love to 
hear what y’all Well, no, you guys know. So, don’t actually don’t. We don’t want to hear any 
expectations. You know what to expect. You guys know what to expect. Yeah. I I know what why you 
meant to say that, but no, please don’t. As much as we love you guys. All right, capping us off. 
Thank you so much, Emma. One of the MVPs of our Dexter Talks. Uh, I mean a lot like all pretty 
much all of you trying have been very consistent and we very much appreciate it. Emma has this 
to say. Dexter season 2 finale. I hope you guys enjoyed this season. I love it. We did. Uh, there 
are a lot of Dexter questions this time, so I’ll keep mine relatively short. Appreciate that. Uh, 
how do you like season 2 compared to season 1? Do you think they did anything better or worse, or do 
you think it was just a good continuation? Did you expect that Dos would have would have to be killed 
to keep Dexter’s secret or did you think there was   a chance of him being released? If you thought 
he had to be killed, are you surprised it wasn’t Dexter that did it? And finally, any predictions 
on season 3 or anything you’d like to see more of? Love your guys reactions to the show and can’t 
wait to see. Well, Emma, we love you. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. We can do these in a tandem. 
Question question one. How do you like season two compared to season one? I wasn’t honestly like 
watching it. I was not comparing. I just thought it was a great season. So I personally was not 
comparing it in any way. It was definitely there were there were definitely points where there 
was totally different just cuz again to what you   were saying was focusing a lot more on the on the 
inward though there was a lot of of points of like really focusing on the inner conflict as well. 
But then again you had that whole solving of of you know biney and then that whole twist. So, we 
didn’t have that that as much, but I I like that   they were doing something a little bit different 
and more ambitious in this season. I found that interesting. So, you know, I like that it wasn’t 
a copy and paste of season 1. So, I wouldn’t say I compared it to season one. I just think they’re 
both A’s or A+. I mean, they’re both so damn good. They’re great seasons of television. So, hard for 
me to to compare and say which one I liked better, honestly. I would Yes, it’s a great continuation. 
I’ll leave it right there and uh just let John say did did you compare season 1 and season two while 
you were watching or after you’re after we’re done   with season two? No, it crossed my it has crossed 
my mind to some degree. I didn’t spend much time while we were watching season 2 comparing it. Um 
in a lot of ways I fall into the camp of Yeah, I think it’s overall just a good continuation 
of the show. It does. It does feel in a good way like when you get a sequel to something and 
you’re like, “What on earth are they going to do with this?” And then they do something bold 
and you’re like, “Oh, wow. That’s what they did   with it.” And cool. Like, well done. No. Again, 
not pulling many punches. Um, I mean, season one and two definitely feel different to me. And 
season two feels a lot more feverish and a lot more wild in a way because you know the core of 
the show your title character is in such turmoil and is going through this sort of manic shift 
in his you know in so many of his faculties in so many of his philosophies in so many of his you 
know relationships such as they are. So, um, it’s weird like season 1 in a lot of ways feels pretty 
flawless to me in hindsight and the reveals were really sharp. And I thought throughout the season 
there was this really consistent sort of poise and uh, tone that for the most part, yeah, always 
it kept a consistency I guess that I appreciate. And again, it it in hindsight is is pretty 
flawless to me. Not to say there are no flaws, and I can think of maybe maybe one episode at 
the time where I was sort of like thinking that   there were, again, if I if I try to approximate 
this, I’m going to be nitpicking to a degree. Uh, and season 2 I thought was really smart. Again, 
I really admired the boldness. I really admired   uh them running directly into the fire of the 
circumstances there. And I thought it was, yeah, really tense, really fun. uh really effective 
and really well done and really well, you know, overall earned in what they chose to do and how 
they chose to do it and the different characters.   It is more wild, I would uh I would assert. Um, 
and there are maybe a couple aspects of season 2 that are a little bit um, God, there was one there 
was maybe one detail here or there where I was like, if this had been any different, I don’t know 
if, you know, anything would have worked out. Um, God, I can’t remember what that was, though. Yeah. 
Like time from season two. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Like season two, yeah, just generally 
I think is is more wild and because Yeah. you go from sort of like the status quo into okay I 
got to really pull back in the first act and the second act you’re like in big tumultuous territory 
and Dexter has gone off the deep end to a degree and he is becoming this you know warped uh again 
megalomaniacal version of himself and just like the feelings in season two are harsher I guess 
I would say in a sense I oh that was it I need to go back and observe the thing about like, oh, 
we found the slides in Do’s car. Good thing he   didn’t take them to Haiti with him. Uh, you know, 
that was like a detail where I was like, really, he’s going to fly back and then fly back again. 
Uh, but that might make sense on a second viewing   more so than in the moment. But yeah, it’s like 
finding flaws here as of these first watches is not, you know, there aren’t many things that come 
directly to mind. To answer your question more succinctly, yes, I think this was overall just a 
good continuation. And I yeah, there’s not really   a better or worse to me about it. There are some 
things that are slightly different. Season two is a bit more of a manic season and it’s a bit more 
of a harsh season, but it makes sense as to why.   And I think they earn the why of all of that. And 
you know, all the showdown aspects between him and Dos I thought were really interesting and really 
wellandled. Um, so I might slightly prefer the the pristine nature of season 1 and having that 
central serial killer, the discovery of that was really exhilarating in a true crime. Like I don’t 
love true crime content necessarily because that’s the stuff of life that actually gets to me and 
kind of makes me, you know, on edge. But um but you know the there is something engrossing about 
that even feeling that way. And so season one in a very fictionalized setting has that sort of 
engrossing nature of like oh man this serial   killer with this unique MMO whereas here you know 
you’re dealing with the devil. You know you you’re dealing with Dexter and you know what his MO is 
and you know what he does and uh yeah this was different. Uh but I really loved almost everything 
they did. like I am they are pretty much neck and neck I would say overall just a good continuation. 
I might prefer season one slightly for just taste reasons alone but I thought this was again as 
again you could keep these contained as just one unit even if you wanted to. Uh they make sense 
as two separate seasons but but as the story of Dexter if you were telling me that this is the 
saga of Dexter I could believe that a version   of this pretty much brings us to here. Yeah. And 
we talked about it like when we did our season 1 uh review I I believe. But I remember too thinking 
like at the time when they revealed that Rudy uh who we knew him at the time was the wow they 
revealed the killer in season in episode 8.   That’s so early. And then we got the the ultimate 
twist of twists. I’m like oh now I see why they did it so early. I was like there were a lot of 
shocking things that again really pushed. Yeah.   That was like so I can totally get why season one 
like just by a hair you would you would slightly give it a little bit of the edge. I I I totally 
get that. And then also to to your nitpicking   point like I was maybe if I watch it a second time 
I I might be on board with you too as well. Like I was a little I don’t know how the length of time 
it takes to get from Haiti back to Miami because   I believe that’s where they are stationed uh where 
the show takes place. Because I I believe he said I was tracking you Morgan like when you took 
the boat or when you went to the cabin that’s   or whatever when you moved the boat like I had the 
the tracker on like Okay. So you had this mission you were doing in Haiti. So right when he Oh you 
had like how you’re looking it up. So right right   when you immediately that boat started tracking 
I’m I’m I’m off. So Okay. Okay. So it’s only a few hours flight. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it’s it’s it’s 
plausible. It’s now in hindsight I’m like okay it is plausible. Yeah. That’s more plausible than 
it was before. But and I guess like his mission   was complete to to see the the vial and all that 
like to to track, right? Did they say that that cuz he was there to what was he there to do? To 
analyze the blood, right? Yeah. And I think they   just acknowledge like, well, why would he need to 
do that if he was, you know, if if this was him, why would he need to do that, right? Why would he 
take his trophies to be analyzed? Right. Right. Yes. I remember that. Leguarta and Lendy were 
were talking about that. would make no sense for   someone who would do that with their own trophies. 
Yeah, totally. And then to continue with your question, Emma, you said, “Did you expect that Dos 
would h would have to be killed to keep Dexter’s secret, or did you think there was a chance of him 
being released?” I mean, again, John mentioned it   during the reaction, and I was totally on board 
with him. I didn’t I really didn’t think Doss was going to be killed, but you know to John’s point 
of we are past the point of so many points of no returns rather I I just didn’t know what where 
we were going to go cuz there’s just there’s just no way like you would have had to have gone in a 
different story direction in terms of like you’re   just going to have to have continue to chase after 
Dexter and not know the truth or at least have a pile of evidence that points in Dexter’s direction 
because if he’s got the evidence and he knows knows what Dexter is. What do you do there? You 
can’t have Doss alive. As much as we’ve want him, and I’m sure many of the audience who adores and 
loves Dos. So, but having said all that, I still didn’t think he was actually going to be killed. 
I just I didn’t know and I didn’t think they were   going to do that. So, it was a bold choice. I’ll 
say that. Yeah. I I I think I thought that I it constantly put me in that place where you’re sort 
of like working hard to try and figure out any way that this could end in them both making it out of 
this room alive. Yeah. And uh it does seem that with again the way events transpire again there 
were a couple moments in this season where I was like is this a dream? No, this is real. That whole 
headbutt scene was another instance where I was like oh no I guess this is real. I guess we’re I 
thought I guess this animosity has this this cold war just got hot, you know, like they uh Yeah, it 
it certainly seems like and especially with 2020 hindsight like yeah, if it’s out in the open and 
Dos is on to him for real that he would probably have to die. Um yeah, cuz to keep Dexter secret, 
I mean, I just couldn’t imagine a way that they would ever come to any kind of understanding that 
allows them both to coexist. That’s what I would   have love. I mean, it would have been cool. 
It would have been like a fan service. Yeah. From a fan again like I just don’t know like 
ideologically speaking as I mentioned earlier I don’t know if they ever would have come to that 
understanding but like you just point yeah like to   your point though God dang I’m I want to live in 
an alternate universe where they do come together and they work in tandem or it’s like hey I just 
don’t want to know but just don’t tell me like anything any any crimes that we don’t solve as a 
as a police unit. You know what I mean? Yeah. go take out the trash kind of thing. You know what I 
mean? Oh god, that would be so much fun. But yeah, I get it. Like he’s like you say, he’s got 
the code of jokes. He’s not going to allow   him to operate. So no matter how similar it might 
seem that they Yeah. Yeah. And I like their their debates a lot. I like that they took the time to 
do that. And to your other part of the question, you know, do you are you surprised that Dexter 
didn’t do it? Not especially actually because like you don’t want him to and I feel like if he 
does that obviously goes in contra like you know I think it was smart of them to keep harping on 
the idea that like this guy doesn’t pass the the code you know he’s not an eligible candidate to be 
taken out to the trash. So, like I think that is an example of something where if Laya didn’t show 
up and do what she did, I wonder what would have happened at that point because yeah, I feel like 
Dexter can’t really kill him and end up where he does uh and be the Dexter that we know. So, it’s, 
you know, that was a conscientious thing and and obviously like it’s it’s within the character of 
Laya, so I’m not griping about it. It is one of   those things where it’s like if this had been 
any different, I don’t know where we would be right now and Dos would probably still be dead. 
But but I was certainly big relieved that it was Laya instead if it had to be anybody because, you 
know, that just makes things weirder. And two, then it’s two people who see him from two 
very different perspectives clashing. Well,   if Laya hadn’t killed him, then we I mean, they 
already they told us what would happen after he had that dinner and the steak dinner with with 
Deb. He was just going to continue with the frame   of Do. So Toes would have spent his years inrison 
in prison for a crime he did not commit. Yeah. Um which probably would have made Do even like more 
obsessive to the point of like I’m going to get out of here and I’m going to nail Dexter at some 
point. I think that’s also another interesting   angle you could have taken. It also there’s a 
possibility like animosity for like us the like as much as we love Dexter and we don’t want to see 
him in prison cuz again we do like him taking out like the the watch take out the Yeah. take out the 
trash, take out the evil people that he does take out. But to see him like put a but to see him put 
an an innocent man in prison like that that’d be a tough pill to swallow. I’m not going to lie. 
As much as we want him to have his freedom,   of course. Mhm. That would be a very tough pill to 
swallow, not going to lie. But it would have been a fascinating angle to take, not going to lie. 
And also Do gets to live. So, while also screaming every day that Dexter is the Bay Harbor Butcher. 
Well, he would he would know well enough that then he would have to like keep his head down. Right. 
Right. You know, it would make some interesting   good behavior. Yeah. Like he’s too smart to 
just mean when he’s scream. I just mean like probably to like Luarterta who’s someone who’s 
probably going to like confined at him and yeah,   like someone like that to scream with. I don’t 
think he’s going to yell it out in the prison every day. I I didn’t mean it like that, but that 
could have made for fascinating drama though,   too. Like going to these prison scenes uh back and 
forth and like got to find some kind of way. Maybe he a he becomes the new Paul. I I almost just 
uh said something I didn’t want to say to you,   but I’ll I’ll save that for another time. But just 
like finding a way of possibly like when if he can get out and then going after Dexter that could 
have been I I wonder if the writers did consider possibly let’s let’s go with the frame job and 
get him in there. Must have they must. Yeah,   because we we love Eric so much and we love this 
character, you know, so that that I’m sure that was a possibility for them. So, you know. Yeah. 
I mean, it’s definitely one of those bold things that TV shows do to show you that they’re serious 
sometimes, too, is like you take a character and   you put them in an impossible situation and you 
know, and somebody dies and the stakes are real and you’re like, “Oh [ __ ] this leaves a toll. 
This took a toll.” Yeah, I think that’s what they   did here. Yeah% I’m going to be mourning, but I 
was also very exhilarated by the ride. And I mean, certainly makes you root for Laya to meet her end. 
Oh, 100%. Yeah, because at that point you we just really I mean what she did to Angel, we’d wanted 
her in prison. I wouldn’t say I wanted her dead. Like dead’s a very tall order, but once she did 
that to Do and then to the children and Dexter,   I’m like, “All right, she’s got to go.” Yeah. 
Yeah. Yeah. And then any predictions for anybody. Yeah, exactly. Any predictions for season 
3 or any anybody or anything you would like to see more of? Love your guys’ reaction. Can’t 
wait to see more. Thank you again, Emma. Again, I would love to see more of Angel. I really would. 
I I think he’s such a fas he’s really to me I mean I think Yeah, he really is fun. He’s the most 
lovable character. He really is like a whole attraction thing is really funny. I think his 
aura and his tranquility I think it’s fun that   they they do that in this season. Especially I 
think like too it gives like because he’s got this aura about him and this law of attractions like 
look with this foreoding foreshadowing that ended   up happening to him later on. It’s like Jesus to 
the guy who’s creates this positive energy around him and then this happens. It’s like terrible 
like this guy needs some good stuff to happen   now. And also he got stabbed in season one by 
Biny. He needs he needs some good fortune. John, we need Angel to have a good season. I’m shipping 
Angel and Deb. I’m just kidding. I’m just kidding.   I’m just kidding. I’m just kidding. I love the 
both of them. Yeah. John’s like John’s like, “No, I’m That was a joke. I’m I’m literally I’m 
not chipping Angel. That was a joke.” But yeah, I’d love to see more of of Angel, I would say. 
And again, I I think that prediction I made, I’m probably going to be wrong about that, but 
just just events just starting to slowly catch on to Dexter and like a lot of the things he’s 
saying in regards to work, like they’re not adding up. what is going on? Like I still love Dexter. 
He’s my buddy, you know, but a lot of the stuff he’s saying like are not like don’t make sense. 
So be fun to like just show that like as good as he is at his job, he’s good at also reading people 
like I think that’d be interesting thing to see. But any nice to be surprised by a character. 
Yeah. Any final things you’d like to see before we finish off this review? Nothing fresh. I 
mean these last couple minutes. I mean, yeah,   you know, it would be nice to I I love Angel. 
I love Msuka. I love I love the whole ensemble, so it would be nice to see them all. Um, I doubt 
we’d hear from Lundy or anything, but I’m glad   he made it out. I I hope that there’s I guess I 
predict that there’s going to be at least some kind of interesting guest star and probably a new 
serial killer of some kind. Seems like regardless, even if Dexter is the serial killer at large for 
season 2, every serial killer, every season will   have serial killer at large, I would imagine. Um, 
That makes total sense. I I kind of don’t know what to expect or predict now based off of this 
because yeah, there there’s so much of an internal story feels like it has been sort of resolved or 
at least drawn to a a a an a furthest possible extent. Uh, and so yeah, I wonder if again after 
going so introspective for this season and and you know, again turning the microscope on your lead 
character if we will, you know, somehow break away from that and go outward again because season one 
like, you know, felt outward and then became very personal and then season two is super personal and 
so now I wonder if we’re going to take the heat   off of Dexter for a minute and introduce some new 
element. Yeah, I I’d agree with that. probably new characters either for the main ensemble or against 
you. It’s funny you mentioned that. My final thing I want to say here, do you think we’re going to 
get some kind of a replacement for Dos on the on   the squad? Cuz I for sure see that. Yeah, I could 
for sure see some I would imagine if they bring in somebody to replace Dos on theart on the force, uh 
it would be someone of a different disposition. I would have to imagine it’s not going to be like 
the same vibe as Uh, good luck. Um, but I would imagine, yeah, some new interesting character is 
on the horizon for season 3. Yeah. Um, we’ll have to see though. I’m just I’m I can’t wait. Like, 
this show has been I want to see more I want to see more. I want to see more of the B-roll from 
the opening credits. We got a bunch of that those   extra shots making breakfast. Oh, yeah. And we 
had that that one episode where he was making the Yeah, they used all that additional footage. 
That was awesome. I want more of that beautiful intro breakfast footage. That was so cool. Well 
gang, this review has the longest video. Yeah, probably longer than the reactions maybe. I 
don’t know. Anyways, if you stuck with if you stuck with us this long, we appreciate and also to 
our royal rejects who sent us all these incredible thoughtprovoking questions. Seriously, we love 
you guys. It’s because of you that we’re able   to do this. So, thank you so much for sticking 
with us and asking these incredible questions. We love you guys. We cannot wait to do Dexter 
season 3. They will be on the way very soon. So, be on the lookout for them. Oh, yeah. Gang, 
thank you so much for this has been such a joy   and continues. And uh thank you for listening 
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